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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby rerevisionist » 23 May 2011 17:31

And?
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby Lies All Lies » 23 May 2011 17:58

Take it apart, or is this one too easy a target?
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

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Postby rerevisionist » 23 May 2011 19:22

That clip is a bit short - I wish people would credit their sources; I think I may have this somewhere on a DVD. It's also obviously fake - the earth and space backgound are wrong, and the cloudy smoke ('fireball of debris') is out of scale. You can also see what looks like the remains of a rocket or missile falling back to earth. There's also a considerable problem that the picture is out of scale - the earth's diameter is about 13 000 kmetres, so 15 kmetres is far nearer the earth than the diagram. But maybe it's just meant to be a diagram?

This is an aurora at 100 km up (if genuine) to show the sort of scale
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Anyway, thanks for this. Both space and underground blasts have the great advantage of being very inaccessible. Now, according to a simple bit of Pythagoras, at 250 km up, the horizon is about 1100 miles away - making it visible in a circle about 2200 miles across. They must have been careful where this was staged - the Pacific looks a good bet.

By the way - welcome to our forum!
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby Lies All Lies » 24 May 2011 07:12

Lol the scare tactics for the kindergartners with the instructional Don Pardo guy and then the diagrams with the drawings.

The camera lens opens up facing the sun and zoomed in and then zooms out for the effect of the explosion imploding , and then it just sits there the sun in the sky until the camera lens is shut again.

So not one of these Nukular detonations ever ,not even once caused an EMP that was recorded or caused any complications to any machines, vehicles ,sailing ships, or aircraft anywhere in the whole world ?

LOL.
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby rerevisionist » 24 May 2011 08:05

[I just re-read my posting before - God, I must have been having a bad day, it's so dim]

I was puzzled by the trail - probably they arranged a plane with a vapour trail to pass in front of the sun. And also by the size - must have been quite a magnification, and quite a zoom. I suppose that must be a wisp of cloud in front of the sun.

2 mins 02 into this compilation of effects which includes more suns (turn the sound off!) shows how it must have been done, with a huge camera, presumably movie---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv09zUQ50f0&NR=1
Note the low elevation, which might help the effect.

My very own 'goggles' video shows a cine camera in use with a long lens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWz-xpbKcQ0

Another similar use of the sun is in here (36 secs; including crude smoke effects - and piano music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEILIf8VkgI&NR=1
This one seems to have microscope effects to simulate explosions - looks like fluids mixing. Unusual, but the same was used in the film of Dune.

I'd never heard of Don Pardo (not being American) - he reminds me of Walter Cronkite, both being naive men whose voices happen to sound authoritative, or reassuring to the public, in the audio version of screen tests.
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 27 May 2011 10:18

Lies All Lies wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKvvrNrCOnw&NR=1

LOL!


It looks like they start out with a picture of the sun in a blue sky. Not sure what the trail going down is. Then they have some smokey ring. What makes smoke when you are above the atmosphere?
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 27 May 2011 10:40

Another one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEILIf8VkgI&NR=1

The rocket launching at the beginning is the only real looking part.

The explosions at the end look like milk splashing.
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Re: Outer Space Nukular Blast!

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 27 May 2011 11:00

Here's something, maybe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrTM9O6o ... re=related

And some of the other high speed photography stuff. I see a gasoline fireball video there that looks interesting.
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