[dinosaur_denier]

First of all I would like to greet the members of this community. I am fascinated by the underlying idea of this resource. Seems very interesting. Unfortunately, I have no degree in physics, so my contribution can be only a very limited one, but I may share link to this forum.

In soviet times people were heavily obssesed with the idea of nuclear weapons. Nowadays in Russia the situation has changed significantly, of course, but it still remains a matter of concern especially among the older generation. I remember rather well the lessons about the effects of nuclear explosions we were told in the last grade of school in the early 00's. That really looked as a sort of propaganda or cold war atavism. So the more exciting it was to came across this conspiracy.

I feel that my english is far from perfect, but i won't post too much.

[rerevisionist]

You're very welcome. We have contributors from the USA and Europe, and a Russian perspective is very welcome. Some of us in the west understand the horrific things that happened in Russia. And your English is entirely acceptable!
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I moved your thread; hope you don't mind. You're easier to find now. The thread is irrelevant to nukes of course, EXCEPT that if true it's another facet of science fraud.
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I heard the idea that dinosaurs might have been a fraud, propelled partly by the desire for fame and fortune, and partly by actual findings of large bones. Most large skeletons are largely made of plaster casts of bones, for example the big construction in the London Natural History Museum, though they don't emphasise this fact. And there's the scaling-up problem - an animal doubled in length, height, and width has eight times the weight and four times the cross-sectional area of bones and lungs. So the bones are liable to break, and the creature will be short of oxygen. It's why illustrators used to show the things in swamps, to support their bodies. And of course there are plenty of forged fossils, for example from China. There's another vested interest - American creationists sometimes support this idea because it removes part of the support for evolution. (I don't know if Russia has fundamentalists - not many people in the west know about the Russian Orthodox Church - or the other Orthodox Churches.) However I'm agnostic about the dinosaur issue.
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[Inserted 5 Aug 2015:
Comment by 'Jungle Surfer' in his youtube video NUKE HOAX, MOVIES: ... they love extinction events. That's why they love their dinosaurs, too, you see! It all fits a certain narrative. ... -- It hadn't occurred to me before that Jews see whites as dinosaurs, and look forward to their extinction. - Rerev]
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Mammoths. As you're in Russia, maybe you could help me with an other puzzle. If you look at elephants, in Africa or India, they are vegetarian (presumably with stomach flora/fauna to help digest the cellulose). Because of their bulk, they eat a lot - a herd is supposed to eat a small forest every day. Well - that may be an exaggeration. However, mammoths are supposed to have lived in tundra, in ice and snow. Not a promising environment for luxuriant vegetarian. So how the hell did they get enough to eat? Or maybe they were driven north, to their eventual extinction by starvation?

[NUKELIES]

It wouldn't surprise me if dinosaurs are fake. But I still believe they're real because I like them. The only propagandistic purpose I can see for their existence is to enforce the theory of Darwinian evolution, which has Marxist social ramifications.

Judging by the scale of the lies surrounding the space programs of the world (US/USSR), including the NASA "moon landing," and the nuclear bomb hoax, I don't see any reason why they couldn't have pulled off a lie as huge - no pun intended - as dinosaurs. But I hope they did exist because they add quite a bit of variety to life.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I think most Creationists believe that there were dinosaurs, but just don't usually believe the 65 million years ago thing.

I was in the Field Museum in Chicago one time, several years ago. They have a big dinosaur skeleton in the front entrance. There were a bunch of school children there. Off to one side, several feet away, is a smallish bronze plaque. It showed which bones were real. It was only a couple of leg bones and a vertebrae.

[dinosaur_denier]

(I don't know if Russia has fundamentalists - not many people in the west know about the Russian Orthodox Church - or the other Orthodox Churches.) However I'm agnostic about the dinosaur issue.

Mammoths. As you're in Russia, maybe you could help me with an other puzzle. If you look at elephants, in Africa or India, they are vegetarian (presumably with stomach flora/fauna to help digest the cellulose). Because of their bulk, they eat a lot - a herd is supposed to eat a small forest every day. Well - that may be an exaggeration. However, mammoths are supposed to have lived in tundra, in ice and snow. Not a promising environment for luxuriant vegetarian. So how the hell did they get enough to eat? Or maybe they were driven north, to their eventual extinction by starvation?

One can easily come across a group of full-blown fundies in Russia,but is seems that they are not interested in dinosaurs at all. The reason for this indifference can be traced in the statement of Charles Othniel Marsh: "Russian dinosaurs are as well as the Snakes of Ireland are remarkable for their absence".
AS concerns mammoths, we were told that they are being discovered in a totally frozen state with fresh grass in their stomachs. The question of their existence was discussed on David Icke's forum: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=125391
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Hi, welcome.
Now I considered it's in the middle of a big religious-political war about our origins and the past. Too much politics, consciously or not.

There is a curious book, Theozoology by Lanz von Liebenfels,1904 that talks exactly about this, with proofs.
https://www.american-buddha.com/cult.theozoology.htm
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Have you read Nicolai Levashov or genocid.net ?

I think the big dinosaurs could have been made up or exaggerated. But another point is the human giants, there are many proofs of big human skeletons that is censored. Dinosaurs are not a thread to the system. Research into our origins is, specially if you use the race word!

Thanks for Thezoology, weird pictures

By the way, I found some dino revisionist material in spanish:
https://www.mentirasobrelosdinosaurios.blogspot.com/ Surprisingly, the last paragraph deals with alleged political aspects.

I haven't read Nicolai Levashov but i know that he is going to run for russian president as an independent candidate, though his chances are negligible.

I would prefer to refrain from comments on giants and their remains. There is one video that links dinosaur bones to giants bones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udrNXiZipXY Supposedly, this clip is promoted by the paleontologists themselves. Dinodeniers don't necessarily believe in giants.

[Sorensen731]

Despite the fact that, "the entire hominid collection known today would barely cover a billiard table" (New Scientist, 26.03.1981, p. 802), and is not much bigger now,

https://geocentricperspective.com/Ape%20Men.htm

XIX century, control of the press by jews, soon we got Darwin, ape-men and dinosaurs. And Pasteur as nukelies said somewhere else.

Thanks for the link.

As a kid I visited the famous footprints of Dinosaurs in La Rioja, Spain, here is an English link;

https://www.reslitour.com/Dinoseng.htm

This footprints could have been made by a duck!

This is how we "learn" of Dinosaurs, as kids;



Wolves and bears were hunted down and have disappeared in many places, it's normal, they kill people. Lions, tigers kill lots of humans every year, and crocodiles.
It's possible some dangerous lizard or creatures could have existed long ago and is the basis for "dinosaurs", but that's a long way for the fairy tale story of 65 millions years ago plane-size dinosaurs.

[dinosaur_denier]

Dinosaur dance floor located in Sucre, Bolivia especially amazes me. One can imagine that dinosaurs could walk on walls.

Some thoughts on prehistoric marine reptiles.
Nowadays It is generally accepted that Nessie is a hoax. Few people believe that this creature have ever existed. The common notion is that the famous 1934 Surgeon's photo depicting Nessi as plesiosaurus-like creature is actually a fake. On the other hand, the very existence of the alleged reptile should be questioned. It seems possible that the legend of Loch Ness monster was invented in order to make the so called plesiosaurus look real.

And dinosaur images are often used as a vivid methaphor:

What is the meaning of the inscription? Can't get it.

[rerevisionist]

[1] Ingenious idea about 'Nessie'! Invented to give credence to plesiosaurs, I take it is what you're saying.

[2] Wiki says:-

Krümmel Nuclear Power Plant is a nuclear power plant in Geesthacht near Hamburg, Germany. It was taken into operation in 1983 and is owned 50% by Vattenfall via Vattenfall Europe Nuclear Energy GmbH and 50% by E.ON, and operated by the Swedish Vattenfall. Its gross power production is 1,401 MW, using a boiling water reactor.

The reactor is the world's largest of its type in commercial operation. It is nearly identical to three other German nuclear reactors, namely Brunsbüttel Nuclear Power Plant (near Hamburg), Philippsburg Nuclear Power Plant Block 1 and Isar Nuclear Power Plant Block 1, as well as the Austrian Zwentendorf Nuclear Power Plant, that never went into service.[1]

Since July 4, 2009 the reactor is not running.

The caption to that cartoon says something like - "In our opinion you have many good years ahead of you!"

[FirstClassSkeptic]

When the warriors advanced, their throwing spears grasped tightly in their fists, not one knew if any of them would survive the next several minutes. Before them, emerging from the swamp, rose a creature out of nightmares—a monster from the mists of hell that should have vanished uncounted millennia in the past. Yet there it was, snorting, wild-eyed, ready to kill.

Inexorably it advanced on the men, but they bravely stood their ground.

This is from the account of the pygmy tribe that claims to have killed a live dinosaur. Do others still remain? Some scientists say there's little doubt more of the beasts exist.

https://beforeitsnews.com/story/1693/584 ... osaur.html

Blacks fighting bravely? That's hard for me to believe.

[ewing2001]

i really like to be a *happy dinosaur denier, so i hope these facts should make *think and smile : -



are dinosaurz gay or metrosexual ? i never figured *this out ;

formulation, media scientific :
There was no dinosaur hype or *knowledge until the 1970s, though some state it came up as a taxon called "Dinosaura" and so called "formally named in 1842 by paleontologist Sir Richard Owen".
[an "apothecary", maybe early bioFarma perp, for early 1800s anxietyOPs ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Owen]

Even if true and documented, why did it take a gap|Gappee until the late hippie 1970s, as a *refresher" by two connected Yale-"specialists" ?

One was Robert T. Bakker, maybe'ish some stoneHead from New Jersey, who pushed this into U.S>-mindset first :



Bakker or *baker*, for me most likely some CIA|NASA|spook from the 60s

"...Bakker's article "Dinosaur Renaissance" in Scientific American, April 1975...was among the advisors for the film Jurassic Park and for the 1992 PBS series, The Dinosaurs... "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bakker

The AI_stunt worked with some PR follow-up under *that guy :
"...At Yale University, Bakker studied under John Ostrom, an early proponent of the new view of dinosaurs, and later gained a PhD at Harvard. ..."

*as also documented at 'VickPerpPedia' :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaurs :

"...Most research conducted since the 1970s, however, has indicated that ancient dinosaurs..." [yada|yada] ; -)

the slip of a lie also continued in the language-trans|lation :
"...dinosaur means "terrible lizard,.."
hope u also know everything about steven spielberg, who already stole the idea for "DUEL"

btw, some daisyCommitees 'r on this forum, masked as


https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/305908300
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_poison
https://www.usajobs.gov/JobSearch/Search ... Filter=all

anyway, i misssed german carnival in germany again, it's 2012 ... or https://1649beginningofhumanz.tumblr.com/

i think nukelies.com is up to something very *good

[[btw, i was once banned at PRAVDA Forum, after 3 years, that should tell u something ...]]

[Cowan Bellarmino]

Regarding that photo above, doesn't the frame of that dinosaur (brachosaurus?) model closely resemble that of a giraffe? The tail could be added, but how would you go about theorizing that the animal had reptilian skin and features?