[TheDissident]

The title says it all, really.

How did you come to doubt the world created around you by the evil, despicable Jews and other propagators of the Nuclear Myths?

[rerevisionist]

Fair question. Why don't you read the posts and find out?

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I didn't 'come across' it: I went looking for it after realizing that an atomic bomb, as described in all the literature, would not work.

[rerevisionist]

@ Skeptic - I'm just assuming from the tone of the email that 'TheDissident' is just another troll. Yawn. I've suggested a new forum category - newbies, amateurs, innocents, fools, timewasters, paid hacks, liars - I'm not sure of the best wording. Then they could have their own little group of bleating sheep.

[mooninquirer]

@ rerevisionist ---- yeah, by the tone of the question --- especially being a FIRST question --- it is clear he is making fun of this issue.

For him, I will say that I first became aware in Feb 2007 when I read Mearsheimer & Walt's "The Israel Lobby" online, and I was primed to realize its contents were true, because I KNEW that the war in Iraq was not a war for oil, and my other theory, that it was for GW Bush, was not going to work, because the previous month Saddam Hussein was hanged, and GW Bush did not gloat, or take any special interest in the trial. Also, I saw on late night TV, on the BBC, Tony Blair's passionate speech before Parliament that the war in Iraq was a war for Israel. Parliament is usually a very boisterous place, but I did not hear ANY disagreement on this at all. And, I remember what Jews said in the winter of 2004-2005 when I took that workshop over several months, for Jews, called "talking about Israel." At this workshop, a Jewish woman blurted out to me "nuclear bombs are a hoax." And no one in the group disputed this statement, nor did they look surprised ! Since she was correct about the war in Iraq being a war for Israel, about the Jews being the most powerful group in America, and about the bankers picking the president, as opposed to the president picking the Fed Chairman, I have to respect her statement that nuke bombs are a hoax. Others in this group indicated that the moon landing was a hoax, but they did not tell me. They just popped that question, as a probe of how much knowledge I had about the world.

Later on, I brought up to Jews in real life, that the war in Iraq was a war for Israel, and their reaction further confirmed the truth of the Mearsheimer and Walt essay, and indicated that there was more to the story ---- a lot more. I started to question 911, and then I saw Zeitgeistmovie online. The case that 911 was an inside job was so overwhelming. And when I doubted the official story of 911 to a Jew in real life, his reaction indicated that I was onto something. Why the ANGER ? Doubting something like that is the natural thing to do. And THEN he just popped this question "do you believe man went to the moon ?" I thought that was SO unusual, and it really stimulated my curiosity. At the time, I just said "yeah" to the moon question. I made a concerted effort to research 911. What finally got me was the video clip of the molten metal from the thermite spewing like a waterfall out of the tower, and I thought to myself, " WHY has the media never showed it, but they DID show the planes hitting the towers over and over again, along with the face of Osama bin Laden ? " I felt that I was lied to by the media ---- that the media did 911. And I already knew that the news media was entirely owned by Zionist Jews.

Another thing that really bothered me, was my own personal experience of Jews in real life sticking up for other Jews no matter how bad they are. And I thought these Jews were my friends. But no, they would rather stick up for a Jewish criminal. So I got to experience that Jews are just all part of this Jewish mafia that is out to destroy Gentile society, even if most Jews are NOT criminals ---- they will aid and abet a Jew who IS a criminal, when called upon to do so.

[rerevisionist]

Great postings - maybe the originator is having second thoughts about raising the issue.

I have to say I never even considered there could have been a hoax. However, I was primed by having knowledge of numerous other big lies, starting with the Vietnam War, which Russell tried to expose with his War Crimes Tribunal. (I was a fan of Russell, partly because I did a maths degree, and he had mathematical interests). I found huge frauds in biology: I took a lot of interest in the work of Harold Hillman, a physiologist - there are quite a few unflattering online references to him. He has shown that a lot of cell biology is phoney - it's misinterpreted artefacts from techniques which have not been properly tested or controlled. I questioned him in great detail and he's definitely right. He also had several films made in the 1970s - to be shown to biology students. I intended to put these online, but the first was blocked - Hillman is (or more accurately thinks he is) Jewish and a comment I made on several frauds, including the 'Holocaust', annoyed him. As you say, if there's a fraud, they all stick together. I also got to know David Irving well, and again I'm happy he's got it right. 'AIDS', and the suppression of the link between organophosphate insecticides and BSE, and the way lightweight computer models led to the global warming scare, were another trio of frauds. I put some of this material online from about 1997. The Internet of course allows the most incredible in-depth research - it's easy to forget how stunning it is - so after the 'Holocaust' I picked up moon landing sites. However there was an overlap - a British TV channel, not the BBC, broadcast in 1999 a late night TV thing questioning the moon landings - in fact I rediscovered a VHS tape I made at the time, and put it on Youtube, where it's in 10 minute segments, their previous maximum.

I have wondered whether some data mining computer program might be able to generate a list of possible frauds - correlating inconsistent behaviour with some exaggerated threat, perhaps. But if such a program had queried nuclear weapons, I don't think I'd have taken it seriously. I only stumbled across Jesse's video by way of a link on facebook, which as far as I recall didn't take it seriously. I don't think really (no offence) it's a particularly good video - but the possibility of checking out newly-available films of tests and old newsreels etc now on DVD appealed to me. As of course I'd been there before, with unexpected hypotheses. And of course they showed up these anomalies. (The films transferred to DVD sometimes have titles saying they've been 'sanitised' - I wonder if there are glaringly obvious mistakes on some of them...!)

Anyway, plenty more info I could add, but that's an outline.

[rerevisionist]

I think Jesse has been busy over the last month or so. Anyway he hasn't posted in this thread. We spoke on the phone once and I'm pretty sure one of the influences on him was a radio show host. JW had (has?) a radio show, I think in the USA, and no doubt takes a professional interest. I'm pretty sure t was James Whalen, or James Whale, who ridiculed the idea that a small object could cause such a large explosion, that set JW on this skeptical road. (I did some googling, but could not find such a radio item mentioned or saved online).

[rerevisionist]

@ TheDissident - you're an atheist history buff? Just curious as to where you're coming from!

[rerevisionist]

There's a similar thread to this on CODOH (Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust). Title is What made you first question the holocaust?
http://codoh.com/forum/index.html
It's strange, and perhaps troubling, that so few people (I include myself here) feel much spontaneous impulse to check these things. The nuclear hoax is (imho - though it's arguable) far more important and far-reaching than the fake 'Holocaust'; maybe it'll take centuries to be investigated properly...

[EyesWideOpen]

...The nuclear hoax is (imho - though it's arguable) far more important and far-reaching than the fake 'Holocaust'...

That depends on which subject matter one has been conditioned to FEAR more. Personally, I never feared Nuclear Bombs so they were never really a big deal to me, nor did I fear the Germans doing a Holocaust (another Hoax) on my ass but I was certainly conditioned to hate the wrongly accused Nazis anyway. The Vietnamese and Koreans (Vietnam/Korean Wars) sure were not scared of being bombed by some Nuke either, or else they would not have fought us like they did.

Regardless of whether Nukes are real or not (I am pretty convinced they are fake), we still have the ability to kill just as many people with the normal weapons we have today, it just takes a little longer (eg. Hiroshima and Nagasaki civilians were still incinerated even without an Atomic Bomb in a matter of hours, just like all the other cities we incinerated in Japan/Germany).

Personally, the Holocaust Hoax and 9/11 Demolition point DIRECTLY to who these satanic liars and deceivers are; thereby, bringing to light their unconscionable ability to lie and demonize innocent people. The Moon Walk and Nuke lies do not make this point as clear and can actually be seen as more benign lies when compared to the Holocaust and 9/11 deceptions that demonize innocent people.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I began to doubt the holocaust when I found this 1933 almanac, and it had the populations of all the European nations, plus the jewish population. And I added them up, and, there wasn't six million there.

[Sorensen731]

Hello, another "new" one, here, but I lost respect for Jewish Science and Jewish history long ago, if I ever had it...

I will do my homework and read the posts before saying more, thanks for the forum.