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We need a topic dedicated specifically to Dr David Kelly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kell ... ons_expert)

Judging from the information I've seen and read about him, he seems to have been killed for the reasons cited in the email Rerevisionist received from Peter Eyre - Middle East Consultant:

It became apparent that the white government of the RSA did not want these nukes to fall under the control of a black government and arranged with the US to have all 9 sent to the US for decommissioning.......however the UK government asked if they could purchase three as standby weapons to use on Saddam in Iraq.

The three were illegally purchased using tax payers money but channeled via the private sector and involved many high ranking political figures........of this money 17.8 million pounds was siphoned off and ended up in the Conservative Party Election Fund.......they were shipped to Oman without security and were stored without security in a private compound and were then stolen by the same arms dealer that sold them.

Dr Kelly was responsible for the safety and inspection of the weapons prior to the release of the funds and this is one of the main reasons why this poor man got assassinated.

The above quote appears to make sense if Dr Kelly believed in the existence of nuclear bombs. But it also made me wonder for the first time if there was the slightest possibility that he may have threatened to expose the non-existence of nuclear bombs - unlikely, I know - but possible.

Even if he had exposed such a colossal lie, would anyone have believed him (besides us)? Probably not, so that would not likely have been enough of a reason to execute him.

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Following is the entire email from Peter Eyre for the record. It is perhaps curious that he does not address the question of the possible non-existence of nuclear bombs at all. Are these weapons industry guys and journos for real? Are they that ignorant? Or that corrupt?

Dear [Rerevisionist]

First of all thank you for your email....it was very informative.

On the issue as to if Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons or in actual fact already have one does not form part as to the true reason behind this standoff.

This standoff has nothing to do with the IAEA or nuclear weapon development but all to do with a very well programmed "Geo Politcal" plan that goes back to around 1997.

Evidence exists that shows that back in 1997 Paul Wolverwitz discussed the taking over or disruption of several Islamic countries around 7 in total and after 9/11 General Clarke ex head of NATO Europe was briefed on a very secret memo regarding the Pentagon's intention to take over 7 Islamic countries.......Libya, Syria and Iran were on that list.

We all no by now that Gadaffi ( Libya) was wishing to nationalize the private oil companies in Libya which directly was aimed at the US, UK and French interests add to this that talk was and still is being bounced around to stop using the dollar as the main currency and use some other.......add both of these together and one can see the true reason behind such ongoing conflicts.

On the question of who has what re nuclear weapons etc.......I can say for sure that Israel wished to develop nuclear weapons but did not have any territory to test fire these monsters.......it then sent technicians down to South Africa to help them develop and build 10 battlefield ready nukes.......all while that country was under an embargo and UN sanctions.......Israel, the US and UK were all aware of this fact and one of the nukes was test fired and recorded.....that left 9 nukes.

It became apparent that the white government of the RSA did not want these nukes to fall under the control of a black government and arranged with the US to have all 9 sent to the US for decommissioning.......however the UK government asked if they could purchase three as standby weapons to use on Saddam in Iraq.

The three were illegally purchased using tax payers money but channeled via the private sector and involved many high ranking political figures........of this money 17.8 million pounds was siphoned off and ended up in the Conservative Party Election Fund.......they were shipped to Oman without security and were stored without security in a private compound and were then stolen by the same arms dealer that sold them.

Dr Kelly was responsible for the safety and inspection of the weapons prior to the release of the funds and this is one of the main reasons why this poor man got assassinated.

As you can appreciate I am a very busy person and always act alone and never print anything I cannot substantiate etc etc....

I will certainly look up your web but as to if I can participate or not would be subject to my existing work load etc

Again thank you for your email

Kind Regards

Peter Eyre - Middle East Consultant - 3/3/2012
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After......around

[rerevisionist]

[Not really on topic, but relevant to suspicious deaths: there's a theory that Lawrence of Arabia was murdered (his motor bike tripped by wire on a fast stretch of road - fast by the standards of the time) perhaps to remove the person who had given Arabs guarantees and knew the detail].

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Makes me think Kelly probably didn't know that nuclear bombs don't work. That's the thing - you've got thousands and thousands of people who actually might handle actual high-tech bomb shells, and even uranium (/ plutonium?) - so why wouldn't they be absolutely convinced that nukes can explode into giant TNT mushroom clouds? It's so insane it literally boggles my mind.

[rerevisionist]

I think there's a psychological aspect to nukes: these people simply don't hear what we're claiming. I had the same thing with the Youtube maker of that Indian construction engineer, who'd helped build nuclear power stations - or pretend nuclear power stations. He was concerned over radiation, uranium shortages etc etc - all the usual. I think I managed to get the point across, that we suspect/ know that certainly early nukes were phoney. I had no further replies. I had the same thing with some alternative physics types; I think I had a couple of replies, from people who hadn't watched my videos carefully, but generally they will not answer. I think the experts are more cagey than the trolls: the latter don't know enough to come up with sensible arguments - they're like people cheering on a football side, with no idea of what happens behind the scenes; same with 'Holocaust' freaks, who scream and yell, but leave the problem of making the case to the unfortunate 'experts'.

Anyway, Eyres seems switched on to the Zionist issue, so let's see. (Though I suppose it's *possible* his work is yet another intellectual false flag).

[Exorcist]

"Dr Kelly was responsible for the safety and inspection of the weapons prior to the release of the funds and this is one of the main reasons why this poor man got assassinated."

If Eyres wrote this it confirms he is a liar. David Kelly's expertise lay with microbiology and biological weapons, not nuclear physics. David Kelly was killed because he "blew the gaff" on the dossier claiming Saddam was in possession of chemical and biological WMD which was used as justification for the Gulf War.

[rerevisionist]

This is duplicated in the 'Nukes and Iran' thread.

Peter Eyre (quoted with permission) on 'do nuclear bombs exist?' I've inserted numbers with each bit of evidence---

On the question of if nuclear weapons exist or other forms of radioactive weapons such as those that contain depleted uranium (all of which are classified as WMD's) [1] I can assure you they do exist. However as to there functionality in the technical sense or any other aspect is not for me to discuss.

[2]I have a friend who has worked in the industry who would say beyond a shadow of doubt that nuclear weapons are a reality and certainly the fallout or contamination from nuclear weapons or nuclear power stations is real and has become a very serious problem for the populations of the world that have become victim to their usage or existence.

[3] When one takes normal background readings for radiation and then takes readings of armoured vehicles that have been hit by DU for example one can see that whatever issues exist in the technical sense the problem is extremely serious and real.

[4] I myself know of people who experienced the British tests on the Monte Bello Islands (off the coast of Northwest Australia) and I myself have visited ground zero so there is no question about such tests etc etc

From my perspective I have more than enough on my plate to do what I do and cannot divert my attention from what I am doing and so in that context I will simply observe other web pages........you are more than welcome to print this email if you so wish.

I will close by giving an example as to the seriousness of using any weapons that uses uranium components......remember that in the case of DU that can be in the form of the Penetrator - A shaped charged liner or simply as Ballast (or all three).

[5] Many rounds from A10 aircraft or Apache Helicopter find themselves embedded in soft ground or earth.......some may and do even sit on the surface. When one takes a reading of normal background radiation you will get something in the region of 5-15 pulses per minute. On the other hand if one checks a spent round sitting on the surface that contains DU that reading will show around 10,000.

I have evidence that show small children playing with such rounds and some even suck on them. In another case in the Balkans a round ended up in a water tank that was used by the town for making ice.......one can see the extent of the problem and the fact that its [6] half life is 4.5 billion years.

[1] I can assure you they do exist
[2]I have a friend who has worked in the industry who would say beyond a shadow of doubt that nuclear weapons are a reality
[3] When one takes normal background readings for radiation and then takes readings of armoured vehicles that have been hit by DU ... the problem is extremely serious and real.
[4] I myself know of people who experienced the British tests on the Monte Bello Islands ... and I myself have visited ground zero so there is no question about such tests etc etc
[5] ... normal background radiation you will get something in the region of 5-15 pulses per minute. On the other hand if one checks a spent round sitting on the surface that contains DU that reading will show around 10,000.
[6] half life is 4.5 billion years

He's more interested in radiation than in weapons - he's obviously never heard of the ideas of nuclear scepticism and doesn't take them into account or dispute them in any way - I don't think he's read any of this site.

The radiation issue is separate, since no doubt there are radioactive isotopes. But the half life of billions of years comment shows he doesn't have a deep knowledge of this subject - it's obviously not possible to have intense radioactivity over such a huge stretch of time. Cactusneedles thought that 'depleted uranium' itself is a hoax. It looks as though Peter Eyres doesn't know what his meters measure (nor the problems of measuring neutrons).

On the face of it, he's just another nonscientist discussing politics. He is unusual in being given air time (not of course in the 'mainstream' media) for serious comments on imperialism and Zionists, though.

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He is unusual in being given air time (not of course in the 'mainstream' media) for serious comments on imperialism and Zionists

RT is a controlled opposition dumping ground. It's supposedly Russian. It has people like Max Keiser and Alex Jones on it. But it also has Adrian Salbuchi on it who is definitely a forthright guy. He responded the following when I told him about NUKE LIES a while back:

Hey, Jessee...
Very good video you prepared. I see your point very well. One of my dearest friends and mentor, Miguel Serrano (former Chilean Ambassador to India, Austria and former Yugoslavia, prolific writer, who died last year at 92), used to say something along the same lines as you. Can you send me an E-mail to "salbuchi@. .com.ar" so we can correspond in private? Again thanks and regards... Adrian

All in all RT seems to be set up for America as a false opposition to the totally fake news broadcast on U.S. television.

[rerevisionist]

All in all RT seems to be set up for America as a false opposition to the totally fake news broadcast on U.S. television.

Yes, OK, you may well be right. If so, presumably Eyre's role would be to change his mind later, and announce he used to think this and that, but now supports the glorious allies.

But he sounds like a genuine commentator, perturbed by Zionists, but a bit gullible over technology. However, I'm virtually certain he won't reply. This is his video again, in 'Nukes and Iran' thread (I don't want to post it yet again!)
https://www.big-lies.org/nuke-lies/www.nukelies.com/forum/nukes-and-iran-4-of-5.html

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All in all RT seems to be set up for America as a false opposition to the totally fake news broadcast on U.S. television.

You are right. I came to this conclusion some time ago. The demeanour of Max Kaiser and Stacy Herbert is one of viewer mockery when they report the activities of the financial puppet masters and their apparent exemption from laws that apply to everyone else.

From Wiki

Keiser also anchors On the Edge, a program of news and analysis hosted by Iran's Press TV. [2]

He broadcasts on a news channel from the "fake" pariah state of Iran so it's not a big leap to figure out that Iran is also a puppet regime fronted by the crypto 'Jew' Ahmadinejad.

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"fake" pariah state

PERFECT description of Iran - it's refreshing to read that. Iran must have been a US/UN-controlled colony since the Shah, right? If so that is worrying as it signifies that they really may be trying to initialize WW3 after having incubated your fake pariah for half a century.

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Yes. Of course Iran is a fake pariah state (as Venezuela and as was Iraq). The revolution of 1979 was a fake one organized by Jews. When Jews control a country they don't let it go so easily (and it was clearly under control before and during the Shah era). Iran is just there to be a fake opposition. 1) it allows average jews to be more united against the supposed enemy ; 2) Maybe it will be a part of the greater Israel after a lost war against the USA. Or maybe it is there to divert the attention from what is presently made in Iraq. Then Iraq will be a part of the greater Israel, and Iran will still be the official greatest enemy of Israel.

If the political opposition of the Iran state was for real, they would denounce nuke lies. They would finance the Nuke Lies forum. They would also finance the holocaust revisionists. They would denounce all the other lies spread by Jewish leaders. But they don't do that. They don't do that because this is a fake opposition.