[FirstClassSkeptic]

One thing I have never heard mentioned in any of the mythology of the atomic bomb is that there should have been a lightning like static on all radios. None of the crew of the bomber planes, no one in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, no one anywhere around the world, mentions anything about it. Radios for miles around should have blanked out for at least a moment.

The EMP thing seems to have been added at a much later date. I don't recall any mention of EMP until about 1980.

[rerevisionist]

Yes, I agree, I don't remember EMPs before 1980ish. There was a scare that an electromagnetic pulse might knock out entire computer systems - in view of the inverse square law, a bit unlikely - and I don't know what money-making schemes this was designed to help. I think 'neutron bombs' date from about the same time. Maybe some corner of physics was trying to get funding - a particle collider perhaps? I seem to remember a proposed huge one failed to get money. Or maybe some system to make computer communications more secure - though with packet switching so comms get routed all over the place, and/or optical cables, maybe it was a non-starter. Or some corner of the military - though I'm not sure they need publically-promoted money-making schemes.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

When they came out with EMP, they asked themselves the question, preemptively, "Why didn't we know about this before?" and their answer was that vacuum tubes weren't affected by it, but transistors and integrated circuits were. Then, in some later years, they modified it somewhat and said that very large scale integrated circuits, like perhaps, microprosessors? were again, not affected, because the circuit paths were so small. So it only affected things in the middle of the scale, and not at each end. This never made sense to me.

But even with a vacuum tube radio of 1945, it should receive the broadband pulse, and make a noise on the radio speaker, like lightning would make, a snap or static. In fact, I even remember some guy on the radio talking about it, that during a nuclear exchange, all you would hear on your radio would be noise like a lightning storm. The US government even developed a low frequency radio system to be used in the event of a nuclear war, that would avoid the static. What the system was really for, I can only guess.

[rerevisionist]

SKY TURNING PINK...

Here's an absolutely hilarious short Youtube on 'Pinktonium' and 'Gaydiation poisoning' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVxn6wn-2Xc

Note the sky has been processed to pink, presumably using the 'green screen' facility, but with luminance, and with a colour-shifted duplicate copy of the video showing through. That's how I'd do it, anyway. The gloves are blue, so maybe they used luminance, whereas NASA did a simple colour-change, so some of their NASA logos turned from sky blue to reddish brown. The pinktonium video also has a bit of 'rag doll' human motion simulation. I forget the 'bomb' sequences were done, but the standard software is of course out there.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

Tibbets addressed the crew. "Okay. That was the reflected shock wave, bounced back from the ground. There won't be any more. It wasn't flak. Stay calm. Now, let's get these recordings going. Beser, you set?"

"Yes, Colonel."

"I want you to go around to each of the crew and record their impressions. Keep it short, and keep it clean. Bob, start talking."

"Gee, Colonel. It's just spectacular."

"Just describe what you can see. Imagine you're doing a radio broadcast."

With the Enola Gay beginning to orbit at 29,200 feet, eleven miles from Hiroshima, the tail gunner produced a vivid eyewitness account.

"A column of smoke rising fast. It has a fiery red core. A bubbling mass, purple-gray in color, with that red core. It's all turbulent. Fires are springing up everywhere, like flames shooting out of a huge bed of coals. I am starting to count the fires. One, two, three, four, five, six ... fourteen, fifteen ... it's impossible. There are too many to count. Here it comes, the mushroom shape that Captain Parsons spoke about. . . . It's like a mass of bubbling molasses. The mushroom is spreading out. It's maybe a mile or two wide and half a mile high. It's nearly level with us and climbing. It's very black, but there is a purplish tint to the cloud. The base of the mushroom looks like a heavy undercast that is shot through with flames. The city must be below that. The flames and smoke are billowing out, whirling out into the foothills. All I can see now of the city is the main dock and what looks like an airfield."

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboa ... /chap1.htm

It appears that Parsons had told the crew beforehand to expect a mushroom cloud.

The stone columns flanking the entrance to the Shima clinic were rammed straight down into the ground.

Now there's a good one. Any evidence of that?

[FirstClassSkeptic]

How many died?

IN THE first millisecond after 8: 16 a.m., a pinprick of purplish red light expanded to a glowing fireball hundreds of feet wide. The temperature at its core was 50 million degrees centigrade. At ground zero—the Shima clinic—directly beneath the detonation, the temperature reached several thousand degrees centigrade.

Of the estimated 320,000 civilians and soldiers in the city, some 80,000 were killed instantly or seriously wounded. Most deaths occurred in the four square miles around the Aioi Bridge, containing the city's principal residential, commercial, and military quarters. About one-third of the casualties were soldiers.

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboa ... /chap1.htm

In 1946, the Manhattan Engineer District published a study that concluded that 66,000 people were killed at Hiroshima out of a population of 255,000. Of that number, 45,000 died on the first day and 19,000 during the next four months. In addition, "several hundred" survivors were expected to die from radiation-induced cancers and lukemia over the next 30 years.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/phoenix-mi ... 66000-dead

[rerevisionist]

It's maybe a mile or two wide and half a mile high.

They're all liars, aren't they. Did you notice that bit I picked out? Mile or two wide, half a mile high - i.e. a sort of T shape with a short upstroke. Not at all the 'stringer' as someone else claimed. And not at all like the few claimed photos of the event. (NB One of the supposed blasts in or under water had a big umbrella or canopy like that, presumably a special effect specified by someone).

[rerevisionist]

30 Nov 2010. Iranian scientists murdered. Maybe not for their nuclear expertise - but because they were aware nuclear weapons don't work?

Typical press report - each statement may well be bullshit -
The killing of an Iranian physicist and injury of another in separate bomb attacks earlier this week in Tehran are fuelling speculation about the implications for Iran's nuclear programme. The news follows hard on the heels of an admission by the Iranian regime that a computer worm had interfered with uranium enrichment at its nuclear facility in Natanz. Iran claims the enrichment is to provide fuel for civilian nuclear power stations, but the once-secret programme —which has repeatedly violated the nuclear safeguard obligations of the International Atomic Energy Agency — is widely seen as an effort to furnish the country with nuclear weapons.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

30 Nov 2010. Iranian scientists murdered. Maybe not for their nuclear expertise - but because they were aware nuclear weapons don't work?

They may have mistaken the one on top for a space alien, He looks like he's all brain. That's the way they draw the 'greys'.

But, I wonder if this is connected to the Russian nuclear engineers that died in the plane crash.

[rerevisionist]

MORE ON INVENTING THE 'MUSHROOM CLOUD' - FIRST 'REPORTS' DIDN'T MENTION IT

This link is to a BBC 'on this day' piece for 6 Aug 1945. Right click to open in a new tab--
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/6/newsid_3602000/3602189.stm
It's not clear whether this is a transcript of the BBC's radio announcement, which would of course have been the format. Anyway, it includes this--

...
An accurate assessment of the damage caused has so far been impossible due to a huge cloud of impenetrable dust covering the target. Hiroshima is one of the chief supply depots for the Japanese army.

The bomb was dropped from an American B-29 Superfortress, known as Enola Gay, at 0815 local time. The plane's crew say they saw a column of smoke rising and intense fires springing up.
...

The 'column of smoke' corresponds to the 'stringer' description of one of the pilots. The 'impenetrable dust' is presumably smoke from fire-bombs. No mention of a 'mushroom cloud'. FirstClassSkeptic is vindicated again!

[FirstClassSkeptic]

If the cloud of dust was impenetrable, how did they see the fires? Unless they meant there was a time delay, where they could see the fires before the cloud.

This somewhat contradicts John Hershey who says most fires were started by electrical wires.

Were people in Hiroshima able to look up and see blue sky? That might be something to check on.

[rerevisionist]

Maybe the difference between Hiroshima and Nagasaki was experimentation with types of incendiary bombs?

Osada's eye witness book has some info on what Nagasaki was like - but after all this was fifteen years later, and the people were kids at the time. However there's an interesting type of description that surfaces now and then - "black rain" with variations - oily rain, dark rain, smoke. Probably this is explicable as an effect of fire bombs. I'd guess that as long as the heavy American censorship applied, censors would have been instructed to take out references to 'gasoline smells', 'burning', 'fire bombs', 'black smoke'.



However they experimented with assorted techniques, including thermite and napalm. (The RAF in Britain leaned towards phosphorus and magnesium). The following link gives a summary of incendiary devices, and the politics and military violence behind the whole thing. All of these things would inflict different smells/ sights/ sounds on the target civilians.

http://guaciara.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mike-davis-how-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-incendiary-bomb1.pdf