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An overlooked Nov 2009 nuke skeptic page on Reality Shack

Postby rerevisionist » 13 Sep 2011 17:49

Is The Bomb for Real? The Nuke Hoax
https://s6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/ar/t57.htm

I just stumbled on the above page (by Googling 'Nagasaki hoax'). 'Piper' says he started posting in 2005, which may be the earliest so far. I'm pretty sure this is new to me, because of what it says about Nagasaki photos-
Of course, one of them must be fake. Or perhaps - uh...- could both be? :blink: To those unfamiliar with photo-analyses: Note that the background in the pictures has evidently moved - as if the 2 shots were snapped at different moments in time(as the airplane moved along). Now, look at the mushroom cloud in the foreground: It is identical in shape. Enough said?
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I had noticed this seemed likely, but haven't taken the trouble to compare the two nearer smoke pillars in detail; but here's a completely convincing one... The photo is taken from a position exactly in line with the wing's edge (if it is a wing). Unfortunately....
As the story goes, the Nagasaki Bomb was dropped by a Boeing B-29 named "BOCKSCAR". Another B-29 (named "THE GREAT ARTISTE") was supposed to back it up with reconnaissance equipment and stuff. The problem is, neither of these B-29's had a side-window which would have allowed the above-right picture with that wing... (Nor do we know of any other plane flying in the area of the 'Nagasaki nuking').
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Re: An overlooked Nov 2009 nuke skeptic page on Reality Shack

Postby rerevisionist » 13 Sep 2011 18:23

That site has links to various photos and videos.

A Youtube, imaginatively called Nuclear Bomb, is a 3min 19 second compilation, apparently from a 1995 film 'Trinity and Beyond' by Peter Kuran. It manages to look completely fake; I don't know if this was intended - I haven't checked that film.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7EhwcwEj8

Another other is Tsar Bomba - King of the Bombs. 3 minutes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ
from terence.drew
We are told in the middle of all the specs and tech stuff that Ivan " was dropped from an altitude of 34,500 feet AGL (10,500 meters), and it detonated a little over three minutes later at an altitude of 13,100 feet AGL (4,000 meters)"
. . . .Parachute a little on the small side (same size as for human) to retard something weighing 27 tons for 3 mins and only fall 20,000 feet???!!! Dont think so
. . . .windows were smashed 500 miles away but luckily the plane survived.
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Re: An overlooked Nov 2009 nuke skeptic page on Reality Shac

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 14 Sep 2011 20:16

I never noticed that there are two different pictures. I knew there was one with a wingtip and one without, but didn't realize the background was different. This is very interesting.

I did think that the wingtip looks like a rather smallish plane. But then it never occurred to me that there weren't supposed to be any smallish planes; only B-29 bombers. Notice that the control surface on the wing looks very close to the tip. I don't think this is correct for a B-29, but I am just guessing. It just doesn't look like a big wing. Also, the tip seems too close to the photographer. The wing on a B-29 is very long.

Women inside B-29 wing:
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From
https://www.taphilo.com/history/WWII/USA ... ndex.shtml

And there might be something here:
https://album.atlantahistorycenter.com/s ... 3&t=Bomber

Interesting, and sort of melancholy, a Japanese web page for the B-29:

https://www.sun-inet.or.jp/~ja2tko/eng/o ... seum1.html

A picture from there:
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I don't see a window. I suspect that the place from where the picture of the cloud was supposed to be taken was the bomb bay, and there wouldn't be a window. Also, there looks like there should be the star emblem visible.

See the bumps on top? Two are gun turrets, I think. One for sure. There might be a dome of cloth or plastic for radio antennas, or radar. There is supposed to be a clear window on top for the navigator to see the stars. I read that someplace. But I don't know if you could see the wing from it. I think though that it was forward of the wings, just behind the pilots cabin.
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