[FirstClassSkeptic]

Here's a link from the same site reporting a speech by Ahmadinejad http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209009.html - 'Iran needs no bomb to cut off US hands' - it's mainly about the USA supposedly having 5,000 nuclear bombs, though it doesn't say why Ahmadinejad - if he believes this - should be so unworried.

I have wondered about this man also; if he knows the hoax or not. You have to wonder, if they really and truly have a nuclear research program, if they figured out, hey, this doesn't work. But then, why would they keep on? It would seem that the man is part of the scam. OR maybe just now figuring it out.

If Syria has figured out there there are no nukes, they might not hesitate to sink that US aircraft carrier that is off its shore.

[rerevisionist]

Captured, or malfunctioned, drone.

From a typical BBC item. In conventional BBC style, the article is all written from an anti-Iran viewpoint, with Jewish commentators etc. The idea that the BBC is 'impartial' must be one of the biggest and oldest lies of the modern world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16154743

[voerioc]

I think there isn't any free leader in any country of the world. Ahmadinejad is a fake as Saddam and Gaddafi (fake death as Saddam) were, and as Chavez or Putin are.

If they were free leaders, they would finance truth movement like our one. And they would spread the truth on their TV channels, their newspapers, their radios. They don't.

They also wouldn't be received by western leaders.

And they wouldn't be there in the first place. Jewish leaders control the USA, GB, Germany, France, etc... This is not countries as powerless as Libya or Venezuela or Irak which would be able to be independent. They are as controlled as the biggest countries. So, jewish leaders would never have let them access to power.

In the middle-east, it's clear that all the leaders in place have been put there by jewish leaders. The goal is to create at the end the greater Israel. So, they need to have "bad guys" like Ahmadinejad or Saddam. Even the Palestinian zone is maintained with a purpose by jewish leaders. With all the power that they have, jewish leaders could eject them without any difficulties. And with their control of medias, people would have forgotten the problem after two months. The purpose is to have a desperate enemy very close to Israel. Thus, ordinary jews are scared by terrorism and are more united behind their leaders. They need to maintain the paranoia of ordinary jews to maintain the unity between them.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I've seen that Israel might shut down' their nuclear power plant for fear of war with Iran.

[NUKELIES]

I've seen that Israel might shut down' their nuclear power plant for fear of war with Iran.

FCS Do you think Vanunu is just a psyop? I think he must be. The Wikipedia page for him reads "citing his opposition to weapons of mass destruction, revealed details of Israel's nuclear weapons program to the British press in 1986." Pretty plain manipulation.

I see Rerev has already addressed the topic: "Vanunu was a plant; he must have been briefed carefully, I think, as it seems unlikely he could have been fed an entirely coherent story."

That's what I find sickening about liars - Vanunu poses as the big-hearted victim while he is more than likely aware of the entire truth of the situation. Ron Paul seems even worse to me - he's absorbing the hopes of millions of gullible American White males into his fraud of a campaign. If Ron Paul were the real thing he wouldn't be on TV. If Ron Paul were the real thing he would tell the truth about 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden, and the obamanation's illegitimacy as well.

[rerevisionist]

Vanunu - there's a legal problem between the USA, and other countries supposedly with nuclear programmes - they aren't supposed to deal with them. The point of Vanunu was/is to pretend Israel has nuclear bombs, but simultaneously allow Israel to deny it. The Sunday Times is an absolutely typical 'quality' newspaper, of the sort they'd choose to promote the story, with the rubbish about 'investigative' journalism, but the 100% record of concealment of serious matters. There's also of course opportunity to run the story - there was a sex kidnapping angle, for example, and the 'free Vanunu' hype, reminiscent of the 'atom spies' stuff surrounding eg the Rosenbergs. It's unlikely Vanunu was ever in solitary confinement over any long period. I went to a meeting at the Houses of Parliament, in one of their innumerable meeting rooms, in the late 1990s, addressed by Frank Barnaby of the 'Oxford Research Group', and others, such as Susannah York, presumably 'useful idiots'. Barnaby replied once to my questioning email a couple of years ago, but once only. The 'Oxford Research Group' appears to keep up with new weaponry, but presumably is just another controlled outfit; they don't for example speak out on deliberate civilian deaths.

Vanunu - Media Disinformation to Pretend Israel has Nuclear Weapons This site's info on Mordechai Vanunu as a Jewish agent

Oxford Research Group - Jewish-funded Nuke Conspiracy 'Charity' 'Oxford Research Group', Frank Barnaby etc

[rerevisionist]

http://www.alternativeright.com/altright-radio/iran-israel-and-the-bomb/
One-hour discussion between Jonathan Bowden and a host whose name I couldn't find. Both men believe in nuclear weapons, and expect many countries, not just Iran, but Turkey, Arabia etc to get them. They also wonder about Iraq and wars, the situations in the various small Middle East countries, and demographic changes in the US and the reuslting possible almost-unimaginable foreign policy changes in the next few decades. There's a curious lack of awareness of Jewish paper money power. No wonder people get things wrong all the time: - these are intelligent enough people, yet hopelessly wrong.

Incidentally the fear/ dread and so on attributed to nuclear weapons - which anyone would think would dominate the discussion - are not present at all, mainly because the 'devices' are assumed to be 'primitive'.

[Exorcist]

Captured, or malfunctioned, drone.

Deja Vu. Gary Powers and the U2 spy plane incident.

Shot down or guided in to a safe landing by Soviet air traffic control? It certainly helped to keep the "fake" Cold War and the fear of "fake" Armageddon in the headlines,

What happens if we input the Surname POWERS into the Avotaynu Consolidated Jewish Surname Index?
Once again an exact match.

....and voeric....I agree almost completely with your post above although I'm not entirely convinced that all the fallen puppet leaders escape execution. Such outcomes are often historically "par for the course" for those who sup with the devil.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

US 'bunker-buster' not powerful enough against Iran: Report
AFP Jan 28, 2012, 10.59AM IST
Tags:
US military|Pentagon|Leon Panetta

WASHINGTON: The US military has concluded that its largest conventional bomb is not capable of destroying Iran's most heavily fortified underground facilities suspected to be used for building nuclear weapons, The Wall Street Journal reported late Friday.

But citing unnamed US officials, the newspaper said the military was stepping up efforts to make it more powerful.

The 13.6-ton "bunker-buster" bomb, known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, was specifically designed to take out the hardened fortifications built by Iran and North Korea, the report said.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... ker-buster

I thought those 'bunker busters' were supposed to be nuclear?

Anyway, I think that these 'bunker busters' are just another imaginary weapon.

[Exorcist]

The bunker busting bombs are more to do with $camming the US taxpayer.....later in the article...

"The Defense Department has spent about $330 million so far to develop about 20 of the bombs, which are built by Boeing Co., the report pointed out.

The Pentagon is seeking about $82 million more to make the bomb more effective, The Journal said."

$16.5 million dollars per bomb??????? Nice work if you can get it considering what Barnes Wallis did on a shoestring during WWII.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

The bunker busting bombs are more to do with $camming the US taxpayer.....later in the article...

"The Defense Department has spent about $330 million so far to develop about 20 of the bombs, which are built by Boeing Co., the report pointed out.

The Pentagon is seeking about $82 million more to make the bomb more effective, The Journal said."

Boeing says, "Oh, sorry; it didn't work like we claimed it would. But don't worry. Just give us another 82 million, and we'll get it working better."

[ewing2001]

My dirt on Clapper|nukelies-cover-up artist

(this will be probably one of my last postings and contribution *here,
since i wanna focus on other specific, maybe also more *unconventional pr-strategies for my book, somewhere else.
My biggest respect to this forum, which once inspired me, to add also the nukeFakery plus link to this forum,
in some of my chapters)

re (*31st January 2012):
Director of National James Clapper told Congress Iranian leaders are considering attacks against the US.
Clapper says Iran is one year from a nuclear bomb./
Israel may bomb Iran nuke sites (February 03)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tened.html

James Clapper is as phony and a potential plant and|or tool for the EUROZONE|neocon rightwinger-Aspen Strategy Group [who also created Obama for President and run most of his so called "U.S."- Cabinet members, partly already established via CNAS.org in February 2007, same month when he started "running" /February 10, 2007],
as shown at http://web.archive.org/web/200812070844 ... bout/board], as all other nukefake-coverup artists, which later became part of the Obama Cabinet: Admiral Dennis C. Blair, Dr. Susan Rice/UN Ambassador since Jan '09 etc…



At CNAS also sits Norman R. Augustine.
(Former Chairman, Executive Committee, Lockheed Martin Corporation ;
clearly one of the *real 911 executers, on behalf of EUROZONE-endgame winners)

Clapper once replaced Dr. Stephen Cambone as United States Under-Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in 2007 (after 4 years running that position). Cambone was in charge during July 2000 to January 2001 as Staff Director for the Commission to Assess United States National Security Space Management and Organization, also called the Rumsfeld Commission.

Rumsfeld proclaimed that time, that "America faced a potential Pearl Harbour in space and called for an arsenal of space weapons"
[from "Lost War Drill Chapter 6 -Space War", 2004; ewing2001]

Also, check this connection :
August 8th, 2001 Two days after George Bush receives officially a new PDB with a so called "clear warning on Bin Laden", Air Force Lt. Gen. (ret.) James R. Clapper Jr. [before he worked as Booz, Allen, & Hamilton employee] becomes director of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA), later renamed into NGA. September 10, 2001: The NSA allegedly receives some 'unexplained signal': "Tommorrow is Zero Hour"

Clapper, leads this project for the NRO (National Reconnaissance Office), which at the same time not only develops new satellite capabilities (A NRO payload launched into space on September 8, 2001), but also worked on a terror drill for Sep11th (9 AM), crashing planes into the headquarters, as later confirmed by NRO Officer John Fulton.

When BoozAllen started to work for the NRO, it was well known, that they also had been a client of Blessed Relief, the charity said to be a front for Osama Bin Laden.
However, this seemed to be not a problem for the NRO.

On September 11th [2001], BoozAllen Hamilton lost 3 employees in the Pentagon :

Gerald Fisher, Terence Lynch, and Ernest Willcher.
They apparently worked for the government on Trailblazer 1 (which included also another sub cover project, called "Soldier Benefits Tool").

Project Trailblazer turned later into a "plug-in" for the "Falcon9" -the successor of Falcon1, SpaceX, the space rocket startup headed by former PayPal founder Elon Musk.

Trailblazer was also linked to the "The Eagle Alliance", which included ACS Defense, BTG (!!!), CACI, Compaq, TRW, Windemere, Fiber Plus, Verizon and Superior Communications. The Eagle Alliance was actually a joint venture led by Computer Sciences Corporation and part of a 40+ strong company alliance for Future Combat System {sic: hub for pre-GoogleEarth|Keyhole, Inc, a CIA|in-Q-Tel- funded company} [since 2000 contracted by NRO, NSA, NGA etc...]. ++++ Falcon9 [ex-PayPal Elon Musk/SpaceX.com] was a competitor with Baikonur Cosmodrome (Kazachstan / EADS Astrium), until they started fronting for SES in March 2010, to launch SES-8.

SES S.A. is another EUROZONE front as a global satellite owner and operator based in Betzdorf, Luxembourg and listed on the Luxembourg Stock Exchange and Euronext Paris under the ticker symbol SESG.
It is a component of the LuxX, CAC Next 20 and Euronext 100 indices.

SES is the world’s second-largest telecommunications satellite operator by revenue and going to replace american based GPS with the European geostationary navigation overlay system EGNOS, a supplementary network to the Galileo navigation system


Already in September 2000, SpaceNewsFeed revealed http://web.archive.org/web/200301191501 ... r2000.html, that Trailblazer is part of the "Trans Orbital Lunar GPS Experiment..." --- Actually TransOrbital, a California-based company, has their *own Trailblazer program* as well, as described on their own website, but in corporation with Baikonur Cosmodrome in the Republic of Khazakstan
http://www.transorbital.net/TB_launch.html

In June 2010, SpaceX was awarded the largest-ever commercial space launch contract, worth $492 million USD, to launch Iridium satellites using Falcon 9 rockets

On January 16th, 2012 SpaceX was forced to "delay" another rocket mission for the so called NASA [fronting for the ESA]
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5331 ... x.html.csp

Clappers other most significant stations in his life :

1963 Bachelor of science degree in political science, University of Maryland
1970 Master of science degree in political science, St. Mary's University, Texas
1976 Air War College, Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala.
1990 Harvard Defense Policy Seminar, Harvard University, Mass.

On June 5, 2010 Obama nominated Clapper to replace Dennis C. Blair as United States Director of National Intelligence.

Also ignored as a historical fact, since July 30, 2008, when Bush issued Executive Order 13470[4] amending Executive Order 12333 to strengthen the role of the DNI, the DNI officially became head of the CIA [run by Director of Central Intelligence (DCI)] and FBI, though more obviously, this stands as a cover, for the *real (U.S-)powerbrokers:
privatized (pro-EUROZONE leaning] agencies around NSA, NRO, NGA and NASA, as fronts for EUROZONE|european electronic defense companies, strongly linked to the next-big euro-telekom business, among them Telewizja Polska, KabelBW (Germany), Vivacom (Bulgaria), OTAU TV (Kazakhstan), OTE TV (Greece), Sky Brazil (Brazil ; Goldman Sachs front), Viasat (Scandinavia), of course the almighty "Telenor Group"/THOR 6 (Norway) etc., as also described in my book (http://tinyURL.com/occupybeyonce ) ;

Blair's background with Iridium|motorola [where once also the Bin Laden Family was shareholder],
was ironically ignored from both mainstream media and potential US Television Comedy Writer Material.
This should show you a lot about so called comedians on US Television.
They most likely all paid off, what to mock and what not ;