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BASIC INTRO: TOXIC DUMP, STORE, MILITARY FACILITY HYPOTHESES

Postby rerevisionist » 22 Jun 2011 18:45

NEW HYPOTHESIS ABOUT POSSIBLE FUNCTION OF NUCLEAR POWER INSTALLATIONS

Here are parts of postings from this site:--
... by rerevisionist » 23 Apr 2011 10:57

PDF of plan for thorium reactor---
[This may not be the original document moved from Internet, which was a challenge to coal and mentioned molten salt]

... the above paper online jointly authored by Ralph W Moir and Edward Teller ... [Thorium reactors] seem designed so the radioactive part is entirely underground. Above ground is the usual turbine system; heat is supplied from the subterranean reactor. The 'molten salt' seems to be sodium fluoride/ lithium fluoride/ beryllium fluoride or some mixture; I haven't checked, but their melting point I'd assume must be quite a lot below ordinary salt, sodium chloride. There's some mention of thallium, an extremely poisonous element, as is beryllium. For that matter, fluorides are too.

I do hope the Chinese show some independence and check this out very carefully indeed. If these things are supposed to only produce a fraction of China's energy, they are ideal for a pretence of generation, since they could be supplied underground undetectably.

They are also ideal as another form of dump - to dispose of poisons underground. I suspect China is accumulating difficult effluents. The top of the structures is 10 metres below ground; it's not clear how far down the thing would go, but it would be simple enough to include a lot of hidden space below it. ...


From a 'Pugwash' 'report' dated 2000---
http://www.pugwash.org/reports/nw/nw8b.htm
[...]
The workshop discussed nuclear waste storage on the Kola peninsula, where feasibility studies have been done for granite repositories at depths of 150 to 200 meters, estimated to cost 200 million Euro. Locations on Novaya Zemlya are not feasible, both because of sandstone/ limestone strata and because global warming increases of eight degrees celsius could cause the repository to slide into the sea.
[...]
IN 1946-47 following the end of World War II, an estimated 300,000 tons of German chemical weapons (mustard, phosgene, prussic acid, sarin) were confiscated and sunk in the Baltic and North seas. The Soviet Union disposed of such weapons, loaded on ships, in the Baltic, while the US and Britain sank German chemical munitions in the Kattegat and Skagerrak straits between Norway, Sweden and Denmark. CW containers were dumped individually by fishing boats commissioned for the task, or loaded on ships and sunk.
[...]
Risk assessment depends on both scientific data and informed public debate being able to decide on priorities for action, which Pugwash is trying to do with different threats posed by varying types of radioactive and chemical materials, and which other international NGOs do regarding a wide variety of nuclear, biological, and chemical activities, information on which governments seek to keep limited.
[...]
... changes in Russian law have now made explicitly illegal the type of environmental research and writing engaged in by Nikitin. Moreover, the St. Petersburg prosecutor is seeking to re-open the case against Nikitin. Similar cases are now pending, and the situation today is less open than during the Gorbachev years.

In the Soviet era, public organizations were of course tightly controlled by the government. Today, there are 5,000 NGOs registered in Russia, with 500 of them very active. Yet several participants asked, where is the nuclear policy debate in Russia? There isn?t much of one. Have Russian NGOs been effective in forging links with members of the Duma, as this is one of the strongest ways to educate and influence policymakers?
[...]


Nuclear power installations are ideal for secretly disposing of junk, since people fear to enter them, and there is intense security and intense censorship. These structures could be used for disposal of dangerous wastes. But they could also be used as storage, e.g. for chemical warfare compounds.

The 'dumpload' hypothesis suggests fake nuclear power installations, used as dumploads, would be connected to ordinary power stations, and would become hot during periods of intermittent low demand for electricity, when all the power not needed at the time for peak demand would be wasted.
Imagine a popular TV event - ball game, for example. In the interval, 2 or 3 or 5 or 10 million people may make coffee (US) or tea (Britain)! A typical British kettle uses 3 kilowatts; if 5 million people do this in a period of several minutes, this act alone increases demand by 3000 watts x 5,000,000 - a total of 15 Gigawatts. Note that 'the current record holder for the largest coal fired power plant [is] 5.78 gigawatts.' Just boiling water to drink can cause a huge absolute variation in load, though it is still only a part of the total load.


The 'toxic dump' hypothesis suggests fake nuclear installations might be near, or served by rail or road or sea or air links, to mining or refining operations with a high toxic output. (Moir and Teller mention beryllium, thorium, plutonium, fluorides in particular). Some Third World installations might be of this type.
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Re: BASIC INTRO: THE TOXIC DUMP or TOXIC STORAGE HYPOTHESIS

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 23 Jun 2011 00:25

The site team and nearby town of Wintersburg remain a key focus of work in regard to homeland security, ranking in importance along with Arizona's major cities, military bases, ports of entry, and tourist sites.

Security guards working for the utility are armed with semi-automatic weapons. They check identification and search vehicles entering the plant. Other security measures protect the reactors, including X-ray machines, explosive "sniffers", and heavy guarded turnstiles that require special identification to open. Armed guards, security checkpoints with machines, and bomb sensors are standard at every nuclear power plant in the US.


http://nuclear-powerplants.blogspot.com ... plant.html

Photo:
http://cryptome.org/eyeball/npp/palo-verde2-npp.jpg

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/files/ent ... e-full.jpg

How about a third theory? They are entrances for underground military complexes.

I once tried to find a correlation between wind farms and underground government facilities. There is some. But it's hard to say that it's not just coincidental.
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY HYPOTHE

Postby rerevisionist » 23 Jun 2011 03:20

How about a third theory? They are entrances for underground military complexes.


No sooner said than done. (For the record - it was BASIC INTRO: TOXIC DUMP or TOXIC STORAGE HYPOTHESIS to resemble BASIC INTRO: THE DUMPLOAD HYPOTHESIS).

Maybe they fear an underground explosion of stored munitions; I wonder if that's possible.

Point of information request: What exactly is a 'semi-automatic weapon'? Something that only works half the time? Or looking at it the other way, what is a 'fully automatic weapon'? Does it go off without human intervention?
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY HYPOTHE

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 23 Jun 2011 16:32

rerevisionist wrote:
Point of information request: What exactly is a 'semi-automatic weapon'? Something that only works half the time? Or looking at it the other way, what is a 'fully automatic weapon'? Does it go off without human intervention?


"Semi-Automatic" or "semi-auto" means that when the trigger is pulled, one round is fired. The trigger must then be released, and then pulled again for the next round to fire.

With "fully automatic" or "full auto", the gun repeatedly fires as long as the trigger is pulled, until the ammo runs out, or the barrel melts, or there is a mis-fire. Also called "Machine gun".

The popular media will seldom differentiate between 'full' and 'semi' and normally calls either one just "automatic".

Generally, fully-automatics are just a way to waste ammunition, since after the recoil of the first round, the following rounds just go 'wild'. Which might be why the US military in Vietnam fired 75,000 rounds for each dead Viet-Cong. Or, it might be because of a huge black market for .223 ammo?

To own a full auto in the USA, one is supposed to have a license. Costs about $250. A 'semi-auto' is just considered an ordinary gun.

Another term for 'automatic' is 'auto-loading'. I've noticed some of the firearm manufacturers using 'auto-loading' rather than 'automatic', and it might be because of the sloppy way the media uses 'automatic', and because the media makes like someone with an 'automatic' is a bad guy. 'Auto-loading' might be the older, more original, term. And more accurate, really, since that is exactly all the gun does is load the next round without you having to do anything, like work a bolt. Only a very few guns are 'automatic' in the sense of aiming themselves, and firing themselves.
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY--HYPOTHESIS

Postby rerevisionist » 23 Jun 2011 22:23

'Vietcong' - Bertrand Russell's War Crimes Tribunal (and his book War Crimes in Vietnam) say there never was a group called the 'Vietcong'. It was just more bullshit by the Jewish media. (Russell's Tribunal includes Chomsky and Sartre - so it didn't add that last bit). Americans need to apply revisionism to their Asian wars imho. - EyesWideOpen here still thinks the US were terrific in Korea. It's painful to admit these things, of course. Though not as painful as being on the receiving end.

One link to a printed book of the Tribunal is-
http://911review.org/Wget/www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/littleton/v1tribun.htm

One of our people emailed this:
LBJ was 100 % Jewish on both sides of his family. Everything he did in his administration was for the benefit of the Jews. The Vietnam War served a similar function as WW I. It served to bankrupt America and make her more dependant upon borrowing from the Federal Reserve.
Also, it was part of the Cold War propaganda. Ultimately, the Cold War benefitted Israel, because Israel is seen as an ally in the fight against the Soviet Union, and communism, even though secretly Israel was also allied with the Soviet Union and communism.
I heard that Lady bird Johnson had stock in Bell Helicopter, and thus
made a fortune during the Vietnam war. But I can't prove it.


Interesting on line post from Jim Phelps, Knoxville:--
LBJ was a huge Zionist supporter and most likely a "Morrano" or that his distant families migration was from Spain/Portugal to avoid the Spanish Inquisitions. Perhaps this is what JFK was speaking about that he had learned the high office was being used to undermine the citizens of the US. JFK was certainly onto the banking schemes, likely spotted the drug dealing and Sassoon methods, and was definitely opposed to Israel's nuclear bomb works. LBJ and his Jewish Mafia alliances had the added incentive of huge profits to all if they stayed the course in Vietnam, and Drug games went out of control as in the times of Sassoon's profiteering with China for Britain. LBJ quickly reversed the US Note, renewed the Vietnan war, and supported Israel's nuke bomb plans.
It is not a coincidence that Jacob Rubenstein (aka Jack Ruby-- changed his name to hide his Jewish roots--especially since they were going to off him in Chicago for dealing Drugs), and LBJ was a long standing supporter of all things Israel, and Meyer Lanski was a huge Israel supporter also. Is it any wonder that the top players and the most integrated plotters to off JFK had Israel as their common allegence.
One has to keep in mind that Israel was born out of methods of violence against the British via blowing up the King David Hotel and other violent issues to force the British to pull out of Palestine and offer up the deal called the "Lord Balfour Agreement," that was made with the Jewish banking Kings of Rothchild.
Knowing about this big plan of corruption that killed a US President kept LBJ even more tightly in their pocket to cover up the USS Liberty ship attack, and get huge payoffs on weapons and money each year.


This latter chap was reviewing a book by 'Salvator Astucia' (pseudonym - means something like the 'Astute Saviour' of 'Saviour of cunning', I think).
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY--HYPOTH

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 24 Jun 2011 01:44

The man in my avatar is LBJ. He's howling like a dog, and the dog is howling sympathetically with him.

I don't recall a Vietnam veteran every using the term 'VietCong', or 'cong'. In fact, they never really talk like they ever killed anyone. At least, not up close and personal. The most I've heard is from one vet who said they would get drunk, act like they weren't paying any attention, and let the Vietnamese get up close to them. Then they would open fire on them with howitzers.

A lot of drugs were shipped back to the USA from Vietnam, or so some say.
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY--HYPOTH

Postby rerevisionist » 24 Jun 2011 14:51

Yes, most of the killing was mechanised. And experimental. 'Everything except nuclear weapons' was tried - and now we know the reason for the exception.

I thought your avatar was a man completely asleep, reinforced by his sleeping pet. I hadn't noticed the howl.

I was impressed by Jim Phelps' reviews, and emailed him - maybe he'll show up here.
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY--HYPOTH

Postby EyesWideOpen » 24 Jun 2011 20:58

rerevisionist wrote: EyesWideOpen here still thinks the US were terrific in Korea. It's painful to admit these things, of course. Though not as painful as being on the receiving end.


I never said such a thing. Please dont lie about me. It would be like me saying that Rerevisionist thinks the Communist Chinese & Soviets were terrific in Korea as they invaded South Korea and slaughtered the Koreans.

I dont support the military or this government at all because I stopped working and refuse to pay taxes (federal) to these murderers; been living on my savings for years and will continue to do so until my savings completely runs out. I sure hope you are not paying taxes that finance your military as it kills Iraqis, Afghans and Libyans... because those who finance evil are evil.
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Re: TOXIC DUMP, UNDERGROUND STORE, MILITARY FACILITY--HYPOTHESIS ABOUT TRUE USE FOR UNDERGROUND STORAGE

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 25 Jun 2011 03:03

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He also had a thing about picking up dogs by the ears:

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Probably because he was a psychopath.
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