by Sorensen731 » 15 Jan 2012 01:37
Officially, whatever the natives were in the Iberian Peninsula, they were joined by Phoenician and Greek merchant colonies in the coast, but the most prominent was the very rich Tartesos, which fall under the human sacrificers of Carthage, which were defeated by Rome.
After the fall of Rome, Germans (Goths of several tribes) arrived in Spain, not really Christians, heretics, Arianist, "North-Germanic" "Christians".
With time they fall to the official doctrine.
Some of the Germanic or Northern tribes of newcomers were pushed down to the South and finally to North Africa.
Language is very treacherous here because that tribe is called "Vandalos" which is a word for violent invaders, so they "lost" in history.
And later were presented as "muslim" "invaders" again, where in truth is they came again, they were just returning.
Officially the invasion is very curious, too fast and easy with little troops. So they couldn't have been real strangers.
They say dynastic trouble was used by Jews to bring the invaders by surprise.
There is discussion of the logistic impossibility of the sea transport of troops and conquest.
The southern invaders took all but the northernmost parts, because of the difficult mountainous terrain. And only lost is very gradually over 7 centuries. With epochs of reinforcements from Syria-Damascus. It's complicated, with the crusade there is lot of movement, the Re-Conquest was itself a Crusade, almost a mirror to the supposedly occurring in Palestine...which sometimes only reached Constantinople...
Their incursion into Southern France was a sounded defeat, even when they keep attacking the coasts.
At the same time, the Cathar heresy was happening in Southern France with another Crusade by the Pope. The Cathars are exactly like XVIII camisards, religious wars "continued" to the XVIII century, very brutal in the XVI.
No unified power in Spain until late XV when the two biggest crowns united. A fake union, they kept different laws and coins for centuries on.
The Basque country kept it's own laws to the XIX century. The Aragon Crown didn't have the right of commerce or travel to America, solely of the Castillian Crown.
Slowly by 1492 the so called Moorish provinces were defeated. While Spain, well, Aragon-Catalonia conquested Italy and Greece, little unknown fact Athens was under Spanish rule.
The War continued with Lepanto naval battle with Turkey, attacks on the Northern Coast of Africa "so called Pirates" by Spanish History.
Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States by the way...
Jews infiltrated the Spanish population but not the military Orders which were very strict, "Racial Purity" or "Pureza de Sangre", demanding generations of non-Jewish ancestors.
Unfortunately, the Church pushed the Kings to accept "conversion" as well as expulsion of Jews. So, they fake conversion.
A weird episode is Charles V, of the Hapsburg, he arrived by sea, a foreigner speaking no Spanish, and caused a small civil war, "Comuneros".
His economic policies were absurd and disastrous for Spain, he gave wool to northern countries and forced Spain to buy back the expensive product, it brought "German" bankers and the Gold was of no use to Spain, which had constant bankruptcies and ended in the bankers paw, before the silver arrived it has already been promised to bankers.
The mysterious Charles V, was surrounded with troops from the Netherlands, the internal police was made of foreign troops until the XVIII.
There are lots of inconsistencies .
Respecting citizenship, Americans were fully Spanish, but none barely came, so almost no native Americans came to Spain, maybe the Canaries.
Slaves were not allowed in Spain, only in Portugal, and slave ships were owned obviously by the monopolist of trade, Jews.
As can be seen in the TV nowadays, "native" Americans survived in Spanish controlled territories and are Presidents of their "independent" countries, like Venezuela, Peru or Bolivia.
Technically many were Asian emigrants, and white tribes populated South America and fought very hard in the South specially Chile and Argentine, the hardest conquests, the "Asian" newcomers pushed older whiter natives to the South, that's why moderate Asian eyes are typical in North South America and not South South America.
So, Spain was "too good", it's downfall, infiltration.
Spain had a very slow population density, still has the lowest of Europe probably.
Germans are taught in School Spain was part of their King's domain, and the opposite in Spain.. lots of soldiers fought for nothing in Holland loosing it in the end.
Italy remained for long in Spanish hands,
Spain remained the most antisemitic country in Europe and paid for it.
Gibraltar treaty forbid the entrance to Jews, giving a territory to the British they demanded on the conditions that no Jew should ever entered it.
The British answered with a Jewish Mayor.
By the way, the biggest battle in Gibraltar was in the 1780, by combined French-Spanish forces, for several years of sieges... so maybe the date of 1704 is wrong as I confidently believe Spanish history has been elongated like history in general.
So Jews were not welcomed until the French invasion, which ended Spain as a sovereign power and left it out of all the European Wars.
Not because of the French, but of the British subjugation of the country.
The thieves of Gibraltar somehow were welcomed? to fight the "evil" French who just recently were helping us retake Gibraltar. Absurd.
The protected Cadiz, an almost island city in the South with their naval power against the government.
They were the protectors of "liberals" and "free-marketers".
I do believe Britain was different before the takeover of Merchants and wanted to keep the treaties with the Indians for example.
Officially Spanish history is unbelievable and a forever battlefield with foreign countries intervening in constant civil wars and dynastic changes.
Three civil wars in late XIX, a laughable two-party system with constant military show-offs taking power by walking with their troops.
The best was the fight against the United States. Spain kept it's honor.
The country was highly infiltrated by secret societies and foreign countries, France and Britain, the military plan was turned down by the government and no funds were allowed for the naval forces, still they fought with no chance of winning against the US.
Better honor with no ships than ships without honor, and so the last of the fleet was sunk defending Spanish Cuba.
Spanish domains were immediately subjected to heavy anti-Spanish propaganda, Spanish Philippines was converted to the English Language in record time.
The colonies were stolen from Spain through Masonry lead revolutions and later murder of their leaders forbidding a stronger united South America.
Spain suffered the most for it's fight against International Bankers and London-based Centralization.
Britain tried to invade the Canaries islands several times, in the Balearic they succeed for a time.
Spain was summarized by the Germans as "The best soldiers, if they had good officers". A leaderless country.
Reaching the XX century, Stalin almost took the country, Soviet Flags hanged for three years in the capital. And the gold was flown to Moscow.
The leader of Spain, Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera, the Falangist, the only one who could stop the Civil War or end it sooner, was betrayed by the "marrano" of Franco, who had jewish blood and protected the Jew of Admiral Canaris, the great German traitor who murdered Heyndrich, right hand of Himmler when he found his treason. That man told Franco how to stay out of the war, which he promised to enter and signed a secret treaty. With the invasion of the URSS, 50.000 volunteers joined the invasion, the British, almost went ahead with their plans against Spain when they heard Franco said instead of 50.000 he should be sending a million. Spain was unbelievable pro-German.
Franco murdered his older General, he betrayed the Falangist carismatic leader and did everything possible to contain the will of fight of Spain.
The lust for blood against the Soviet Union was enormous, Franco's job was to contain it as best as he could.
His generals were bribed by the British and he knew it.
After two centuries Gibraltar was finally at hand, very weak, UK under blockade and very strained, the traitor didn't use that opportunity and still managed to stop the Germans of taking it alone by legally claiming it.
Opus Dei, the biggest Catholic group in Spain was the key, full of cryptojews it took control of the country.
Hitler wonder if he did wrong by supporting Franco, he did.
The weak expulsion requirements was the downfall of the country, allowing Jews to convert was a mistake.
Now, back to nukes, Franco wanted them. He was in the axis of evil we would say, independent, friend of Arabs and non-aligned countries.
His second in command, Carrero Blanco wanted nukes even more. In Madrid the Autonomous University built centrifuges and claimed ability to achieve nukes.
This successor of Franco was murdered by the CIA, tossed to local ETA, the bomb made the car fly seven stores, and land on top of the next building... in front of the American embassy, researches found the traces of explosives in an American base.
Nationalist groups in Spain may be financed by foreign countries to weaken and divide.
Incoming "democracy" was stopped for a time by Suarez, president who fought the biggest banks and said no to NATO.
So French exiles, Socialists were prepared for injection into Spain, Felipe Gonzalez, famous for changing from "OTAN, de entrada NO" (NATO, as a starting point, NO) to a suddenly yes, and into EU in 1986.
Later the more pro-American and pro-jewish party took power, Aznar the Conservatives.
National industry was dismantled, Spain was the last stronghold of "Old Order", when feminism and capitalism was rampant, Spanish had policies of the 40s, Falangist influence was inspired in National Socialism. Falangist tried to murder Franco but failed. They were revolutionary and keep saying the revolution hadn't ended. The revolutionary young of Spain joined the Falangist mostly, but they were controlled and mixed with other groups under Franco's orders, like Carlistas, Basque religious conservatives.
Students protests and paid street "color" revolution were the downfall of the Franco regime, they were weak and the patriots were being murdered by MOSAD or CIA or MI6 and blamed on non existent ETA, our native AlQaeda.
Many protests were held in front of NATO bases, but the media had already been sold.
Spain has a Europe worshiping complex, the thought of benefiting from the EU is widely and falsely held, everybody believes we are cleverly earning benefits and we are not.
A few nuclear reactors are in operation, and electricity is said to come from France in times of need.
Franco energy policy is famous as a supporter of hydroelectric generation. He was nicknamed "Paco Pantanos", Paco short-name of Francisco, Francis, and Pantanos from lake. He was constantly appearing in the news opening new hydroelectric plants...so maybe he knew something?
Deals were made with African countries for gas, so hydroelectric and specially gas and petrol from the South are the main sources. Very diverse.
Nuclear energy is not present in the islands, only in the centralized grid, with interconnections with France, so it's hard to know from where comes what. Only a few were built and immediately an unofficial prohibition made new ones impossible...
In a conference on the economics of energy production I heard there is a huge government debt to the companies, several years of payment are owned to the corporations and there is double accounting. A public price of electricity and the real higher one the government subsidies and pays directly to the energy producers. The debt has been rising enormously, and the public cost too.
Night production was wasted and was a reason for the introduction of electric cars to recharge at night.
So called renewable energy with ugly noisy windmills needs petrol or gas nearby by law. And corruption cases of solar energy production at night reached the news.
Huge subsidies were given for fast deployment of windmill and solar energy.
A nuclear bomb accidentally fall in the 60s, in Palomares. A subject deserving study.
Maybe it was used to scare Spanish population into not getting nukes?
