[NUKELIES]

What if EVERYTHING currently being reported about radiation in Japan is completely false? It would mean that most of the journalists doing the reporting and most of the Japanese government officials setting policies believe made-up information about "nuclear" power and radiation. It is also evident that extremely few people in the world question ANYTHING having to do with the "nuclear" myth.

Or maybe, just maybe, there are a small minority of people noticing the inconsistencies between past "Red Dawn" fallout propaganda and current "Stay Indoors" governmental advice.

I believe what's really going on here is a simple fire has been turned into a giant propaganda attack.

[ayonraven]

i couldn't agree more with you, ive even watched the debriefing vid given to american soldiers
telling them of the mass evacuation of american citizens, its about as well put together
as the press club conference, by steven greer. or when they are discussing possible fallout; there's a room full of clean cut govenment officials and the camera pans in to the guy dead centre hair all messed, suit untucked to give the 'bad news'. great new site . had to stop by, think i will again. thanks for the heads up. something went down in japan, alot of what we're not hearing.

[momonga]

YES there are many strange things with the fallout issue. Alex Jones was saying couple of days ago that there was a big cover up regarding the nuclear tests conducted in the USA. He said that a million people had died as a result over the last 50 years or so that werent reported. Well, a million is a lot on the face of it, but when you consider that theres 300milllion people in the USA, then since the second world war its a tiny proportion of the population. Probably more people have died from snake bites. And how can you tell for sure that when someone in NY dies of cancer it is the result of tests in nevada 30 yrs ago? how???

[NUKELIES]

Alex Jones' excessive coverage of the supposed radiation in Japan was instantly suspicious to me. Infowars posted an article entitled Infowars has some of the only Potassium Iodide in the U.S. https://www.infowars.com/infowars-has-so ... n-country/ in which they state:

Infowars has taken action and secured some of the only remaining dose-ready potassium iodide (KI) in the country.
It is produced by a laboratory in Texas that we’ve known for over 12 years. Infowars.com is committed to shipping this out as quickly as possible. We are working 18 hour days to ensure this is shipped out quickly via 2-3 day USPS priority mail. At $40 per container, this is less than 20 cents per dose for adults.

The article/advertisement struck me as so crazy that I figured Alex Jones might actually believe all the hype about radiation.

I think it is probable that there simply is no radiation. Even if you believe that there is radiation being emitted - which I do not believe - what large-scale explosion has occurred to be sending radiation across the Atlantic and also west all the way to Europe? If there were radiation, where would it be coming from? And if there were enough radiation to supply such global flows, how are fire-fighters able to go right up to the burning buildings and douse them with water?

So we can take pills manufactured by pharmaceutical companies that will stop the supposed radiation from penetrating our bodies? Then why do the firemen need lead suits?

[TVOW]

I agree Alex Jones has been a bit over the top , but I do believe in Radiation, I don’t think the whole thing is lies they make the big lies out of bits of truth to keep it all plausible. However it wouldn’t surprise me if Fukushima wasn’t all for show , just like the gulf oil leak.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

There's several news articles recently stating that the electrical power lines have been reconnected to the nuclear plants in Japan:

https://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 6230.story

https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1IH2GO.DTL

What good does that do? If the plant isn't generating working, then there isn't going to be any power come out.

But which was do they expect the power to flow? IN or OUT?

I read in a post, someplace else, that japan has 43 nuclear power stations. I can't confirm that.

[NUKELIES]

From infowars.com https://www.infowars.com/japanese-only-e ... suring-it/

Japanese only ‘estimating’ radiation, not actually measuring

Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary Admits: ‘We’re Not Able to Measure the Amount of Radiation Coming from Power Plant’

In an another astounding clip in the wake of Japan’s nuclear power plant crisis, Yukio Edano, Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary, admits that they are not actually measuring radiation levels at Fukushima’s nuclear power plant (and cannot accurately do so), but are instead only “estimating” the radiation via the use of a computer simulation model.

Despite the lack of accurate measurements, the Japan Nuclear Agency reported the highest levels of radiation yet at Fukushima reactor No. 2, as well as ’13 sightings’ of neutron beams.

The reliance upon computer simulations to estimate radiation levels is a giveaway that faith in “experts” may be misplaced, and is further eerily reminiscent of the lies and propaganda in the anthropomorphic global warming debate. Recall that it emerged in the Climategate scandals that computer simulation models were artificially-manipulated by politically-motivated “scientists” to scare the public and “hide the decline” by inputting unrealistic data points, in part to create the now-ridiculed hockey-stick model and sell the need for their carbon-cutting agenda.

I 'estimate' that there is no radiation.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

Why worry about radiation from a reactor while you have a cell phone pressed to your head?

We are radiated all day long from transmitters. It's not good for your health. Including your mental health.

[rerevisionist]

Brilliantly observed, 'Nukelies'. (I really must overcome my revulsion, and read and watch the official media more, to find their errors/ lies). They don't even measure the radiation!! Priceless.

I suspect neutrons must be very hard to detect. Geiger counters as far as I know are highly charged, so that when a charged particle gets near the circuit is made, and the amplified sound gives a click. But a neutral particle wouldn't be detected. A cloud chamber must presumably only detect charged particles, too. A mass spectrometer would have problems because there's no well-defined direction form which the things would come. And in any case they have very low mass - e.g. 1/16 a single oxygen atom.

My huge book collection includes a 400-page vol by Bentley on metrology - techniques for measuring everything from flow rates and mass to acceleration and magnetism. BUT there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING on radioactivity, protons, etc. And I have another science reference book - a cheap reprint of a rather old science dictionary - which has NOTHING about radiations in outer space. Probably there are quite a few things censored from science publications in exactly the same way some things are censored from military, economic and political history.

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[Note added Nov 2013: I briefly mentioned this phoney iodine racket in my talk with Deanna Spingola]

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I suspect neutrons must be very hard to detect. Geiger counters as far as I know are highly charged, so that when a charged particle gets near the circuit is made, and the amplified sound gives a click. But a neutral particle wouldn't be detected.

I would think so too.

For detection neutrons have to be converted into charged particles.

https://www.berthold.com/ww/en/pub/strah ... eutron.cfm

[mooninquirer]

I believe Japan is radiated; however they are exaggerating the effects. But I have noticed that even in the mainstream media, these Japanese nuclear plant disasters are not said to be as great as at Chernobyl. And even THAT has been highly exaggerated.

Further, one would think that the nuclear bombs exploded in the open air outside of Las Vegas would have really irradiated Las Vegas ! Why hasn't there been concern about that ?

To understand this issue of radiation in Japan, you ALSO have to read the article under the post " Where's the radiation at Chernobyl ? "

[mooninquirer]

@ FirstClassSkeptic ----- neutrons that they been ejected from nuclei naturally undergo a beta decay, in which they give off an electron and become a proton, in about 15 minutes after leaving the nucleus, as I understand. The beta particle ( an electron, including its kinetic energy ) carries a negative charge, and the proton a positive charge. The neutron can very well be thought of as a proton and an electron together in one. The proton and electron cancel each other out in charge, and the neutron is slightly more massive than a proton, although by an amount different than the rest mass of an electron. This is because kinetic energy contributes to mass.