Impossible Shadows & Fake Ruins on official Hiroshima Photos

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Impossible Shadows & Fake Ruins on official Hiroshima Photos

Postby rodin » 07 Feb 2012 22:36

Shadows are only dark when the source radiation is switched on. Hiroshima shadows should be lighter than surrounding surface if they shielded radiation. However many Hiroshima pictures show dark shadows. Not all though.

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Note how the white does not quite manage to extend to the posts' bases as it should. :mrgreen:

You might like to trawl thru this thread for nuggets (page 60 linked)

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.p ... 13&page=60
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Re: Impossible Shadows

Postby rodin » 07 Feb 2012 23:38

Recently discovered photos

Dark shadows

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Light shadows again - Here the shadows link up with the posts, unlike previous post pic.

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This is an impossible shadow. The wheels are horizontal, the shadow approx level with the wheel, yet it reveals the spokes.

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https://emuseum.icp.org/view/objects/asi ... 2c97ed3117
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Re: Impossible Shadows

Postby rerevisionist » 08 Feb 2012 01:33

Rodin, welcome. Presumably you're a thinker!

(I added 'at Hiroshima' to your Subject title - it's better for Googlers)

If you look at the shadow of the wheel, you'll see the shadow of the curved spokes is the wrong way round, for a shadow. The clown who faked the picture must have been thinking of a mirror image. (Or maybe it was a deliberate whistleblower protest of the sort David Percy believes was introduced into NASA moon pictures).
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There are multiple problems -
[1] The flash was supposed to be high up, so without more information I'd say the top of the shadow and bottom of the shadow are just about consistent - but it may be that when the fake was made, it was believed the 'bomb' was more or level with this gadgetry
[2] The curved spokes are the wrong way round - if you doubt this, imagine your eyes being at the place the 'bomb' was - the object and its supposed shadow can't possibly line up
[3] The faker has put the wheel's shadow at an impossible angle
[4] Assuming the shadow would have been cast when the 'bomb' was a pinpoint star, it should be sharp everywhere, without a penumbra
[5] Even then, the penumbra is not greatest for the shadow of the part of the wheel farthest from the wall.

It looks as though either a complete amateur faked the shadow, or someone's little joke was to include many mistakes, and wait to see if anyone picked them up.
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Re: Impossible Shadows at Hiroshima

Postby rodin » 08 Feb 2012 09:20

Check the list of photographers. Notice a racial bias?

https://emuseum.icp.org/
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Re: Impossible Shadows at Hiroshima

Postby Exorcist » 08 Feb 2012 11:50

Welcome Rodin and thanks for pointing me to this source of Hiroshima/Nagasaki photographs. I've just had a quick look at a few of them and I'm going to have a field day pointing out the fakery!!....lol
This photo of Takeya Grammar School is faked!
https://emuseum.icp.org/view/objects/asitem/1420/55/primaryMakerAlpha-asc/dateBegin-asc?t:state:flow=ee9cd4ba-51b4-4ac9-bd07-5b6aab5fc05e
I'll do an annotated analysis which I'll post later. Clue...the contorted steel frame has been drawn in on top of the photo...look at the curved steel members on the left of the photo...where they start and where they end up on the ground....lol....pathetic incompetent fakery. Also look at the closest collapsed steel roof trusses on the far line of stanchions. Look at the detail where they connect to the top of each stanchion. The idiot who faked this knows nothing about structural steelwork and has made the lower truss chord into a piece of "antimatter" treacle which loops upwards in addition to connecting to the wrong part of the stanchion.

You are right regarding the wheel shadow. The spokes of the wheel are curved and the spokes in the shadow curve the wrong way. It's also in the wrong place and its proportions are wrong.
Also there are two wheels....why no shadow of the other wheel?
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Re: Impossible Shadows (on Hiroshima Faked Photos)

Postby Exorcist » 10 Feb 2012 05:34

First a photograph of "mythical" Takeya Grammar School supposedly damaged by blast at Hiroshima (PHOTO 1) here:

https://emuseum.icp.org/view/objects/asitem/1420/55/primaryMakerAlpha-asc/dateBegin-asc?t:state:flow=ee9cd4ba-51b4-4ac9-bd07-5b6aab5fc05e


At the following link we find some pages from a declassified "secret" Government Report, the US Strategic Bombing Survey of buildings damaged at Hiroshima. Strangely the Report has apparently been purchased for the EMuseum by two people with the 'Jewish' Surname CAPPA. I wonder if one of their relatives was an artist?

https://emuseum.icp.org/view/objects/asitem/1420/63/primaryMakerAlpha-asc/dateBegin-asc?t:state:flow=c4e46c6b-647c-47cd-ae36-cfdbbdb8bf92


Page 336.....Written Damage Report and Analysis of Building 57, Takeya Grammar School Gym
Page 337..... featuring PHOTO 1 above and another photo (PHOTO 2) below it, taken from a different position
Page 338.....Scale Drawing showing Plan, Section, annotated construction notes, and form of building collapse.

BOTH PHOTOS ON PAGE 337 OF THIS US GOVERNMENT REPORT ARE FAKES!!!!
The building is a complete fabrication and probably never existed. The Scale Drawing is merely a "story board" for the artist "fakers" giving them a rough guide to the form of collapse they were required to depict in the fake photographs.

See photos below annotated to highlight the fakery.

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PHOTO 1

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PHOTO 2 showing the same corner from a different position.

Use Ctrl+ and Ctrl- to zoom in and out of the photos.

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Above we have pages 336 and 338 from the Report.(highlighting bubbles added by me)
On Page 336 on the left note it emphasises main cause of damage to be "blast" which is impossible as M16 fire bomb clusters do not produce "blast"......funnily enough neither do hoax nuclear weapons.....hence the industrial scale manufacture of "fake blast" evidence for their existence....lol.

On the right we have page 338 which is the "story board" for the "faker" artist showing the kind of image required and below the plan a little arrow labelled 164 giving the direction of view required for the crude fake photo image #164. However, in doing another incompetent rendition (165) he really gave the game away. President Obama....can I please have a complete copy of the whole fake Report or do you have to ask the CAPPA's permission first?....lol
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Re: Impossible Shadows (on Hiroshima Faked Photos)

Postby voerioc » 10 Feb 2012 06:57

rodin wrote:Shadows are only dark when the source radiation is switched on. Hiroshima shadows should be lighter than surrounding surface if they shielded radiation. However many Hiroshima pictures show dark shadows. Not all though.

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Note how the white does not quite manage to extend to the posts' bases as it should. :mrgreen:


We can also notice that the horizontal bars didn't project any shadow (maybe the lowest ones, but then the light source doesn't match with the one of the vertical bars). Only the vertical ones did.
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Re: Impossible Shadows & Fake Ruins on official Hiroshima Ph

Postby Exorcist » 24 Feb 2012 23:53

More "faked" Hiroshima photographs from the US Strategic Bombing Survey on the Emuseum site.

Building 15
Ruins of Chugoku Electric Company, Transformer Repair Station, Hiroshima]
Date: October 25, 1945
Stated cause of structural damage...Blast


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Above image shows Pages 184 and 185 from the report. Page 184 gives a completely false report of the damage but not in the way you may at first think. Bear in mind the following as it is important:

1) THERE IS NO STEELWORK IN THE BUILDING!
The photo has been faked. The steel trusses, stanchions, beams etc have been drawn in by an artist.

2) NO HEAVY MACHINERY OR TRANSFORMER PARTS ARE VISIBLE IN THE INTERNAL PHOTOGRAPH!


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Next we have Pages 186 and 187. Page 186 shows two external shots of the building. Page 187 contains a plan and section of the building which is the "faker" artist's story board.



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Next an analysis of the internal photograph of the large bay (PHOTO 1) in Autocad. The anomalies in the steelwork vanishing points (green lines) clearly indicate the steelwork is "faked". I can also use the two measurements taken to establish by ratio the correct height of the truss ridge line in the external photos..


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Above we have the analysis drawing of the external view (PHOTO 2) with all of the perspective construction lines shown, and the correct profiles of the four trusses added using the height ratio extracted from the measurements in PHOTO 1.


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In the image above I have removed the construction lines and parts of the truss profiles hidden by the walls.
Correction
The annotation in the bottom right hand corner of the photo above should read:
"Where are the trusses shown on the small bay in PHOTO 3"



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The next image (PHOTO 3) shows another external view from the south west on which I've pointed out further anomalies. The dark areas at the bottom of the cylindrical transformer components suggest they are from another photo and have been pasted in.

There are several other instances in the Emuseum photos where "fake" steelwork has been added by the Allied propagandists. You may ask "WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY WISH TO DO THIS?"
If you think about it the answer is obvious. They wished to give the impression that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were relatively undamaged before they allegedly dropped the fake nuke. I am suggesting this was not the case and.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki had already been "Tokyoed" with conventional bombs and fire bombs months before.


When they sent in the photo team to provide "fake" evidence for the "fake" A bomb blast they found, to their dismay that the steelwork in the bombed out buildings had been removed months before by the Japanese for reuse in their armament industry. Steel was in short supply as Japan had become a country under seige. This is entirely credible as the same thing happened in Britain during the Blitz.

If the Allies provided photos showing no trace of roof steelwork then people would notice and start asking awkward questions so they added it in. Many of the Hiroshima & Nagasaki photos were taken within a month or so of the surrender and the fact that they show a lot of "tidying up", road clearance, trams and trains running etc suggests that the devastation happened well before the 3rd/6th of August.

Also they didn't drop warning leaflets before, or as they say they did, afterwards. It would have drawn the attention of people in and around Nagasaki and Hiroshima to what they knew could NOT have happened. I believe the Japanese Gov. was in contact, through the Swedes? with Stalin et al and they wanted to surrender months before. I seem to recall "cactusneedle?" stating the allies imposed a 12 month clampdown on all news coming out of Japan after the surrender.

The Japanese elite were secretly given the choice of supporting the A Bomb hoax and continuing in power or facing a Japanese "Nuremburg Trial".
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Re: Impossible Shadows (on Hiroshima Faked Photos)

Postby Exorcist » 25 Feb 2012 00:33

voerioc wrote:
rodin wrote:Shadows are only dark when the source radiation is switched on. Hiroshima shadows should be lighter than surrounding surface if they shielded radiation. However many Hiroshima pictures show dark shadows. Not all though.

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Note how the white does not quite manage to extend to the posts' bases as it should. :mrgreen:


We can also notice that the horizontal bars didn't project any shadow (maybe the lowest ones, but then the light source doesn't match with the one of the vertical bars). Only the vertical ones did.


Also if we extend the lower tubular rail shadow line and the shadow line from the concrete post so they intersect we find the "fake" nuke exploded about 6 ft above the bridge and the detonation point was within the photograph....lol
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Re: Impossible Shadows & Fake Ruins on official Hiroshima Ph

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 25 Feb 2012 00:53

This might not be a faked photo:
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This might be consistent with a napalm explosion.

The napalm left soot. The soot is the dark area. The white 'shadows' are where the pavement was shielded by the posts and pipes, and the soot didn't deposit there.

It might be advantageous to compare this photo with known photos of incendiary explosions.

As for the steel structures: Since the bomb was supposed to be 6000 cent. at the ground, why didn't all the steel beams just melt into a blob?
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Re: Impossible Shadows & Fake Ruins on official Hiroshima Ph

Postby Exorcist » 25 Feb 2012 14:02

FirstClassSkeptic wrote:This might not be a faked photo:


No. It's definitely faked. M16 cluster bombs were not "air burst" weapons. They detonated on impact.
Also any pyrotechnic capable of causing scorch marks in the direction shown in the photo would have been on the other side of the railings and would have fallen in the river. If there are any Japanese visitors to the Forum with sub aqua gear they might be interested in carrying out a few "archaeological dives" to see what they find in the mud at the bottom of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki waterways. I think the results might be "interesting"
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Re: Impossible Shadows & Fake Ruins on official Hiroshima Ph

Postby FirstClassSkeptic » 25 Feb 2012 21:44

Exorcist wrote:
FirstClassSkeptic wrote:This might not be a faked photo:


No. It's definitely faked. M16 cluster bombs were not "air burst" weapons. They detonated on impact.


Maybe they didn't use M16 cluster bombs.

Anyway, stone or concrete exposed to the sun bleaches whiter. If this atomic bomb was brighter than a thousand suns, it should have bleached things really white in a short time. It shouldn't blacken things. Black is from soot deposits. So either the photo is faked, as you say, and the faker didn't think of the atomic blast bleaching something whiter, or the picture is genuine, and shows evidence of hydro carbon burning.

Why did the bridge posts leave a light shadow, but the hand wheel on the valve leave a dark shadow?

This reminds me of the Apollo capsules, when they splashed down. They were half covered with black soot. Where did that soot come from? The ablating material was ceramic, I thought. It should have left a white aluminum oxide or titanium oxide deposit, which would be white.
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