[FirstClassSkeptic]

FRANKFURT/HANOVER | Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:55am EDT

(Reuters) - Germany has become a net importer of power mainly from France and the Czech republic since its nuclear moratorium, which involves seven old reactors been shut for at least three months, utility industry association BDEW said on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/ ... M820110404

[NUKELIES]

What do you think this means?

[FirstClassSkeptic]

It means Germany's extensive wind farms are not picking up the slack.

I don't know how to interpret this, really. One thing I know is that it's impossible to determine which direction power is flowing in a power line just by looking at it. Only those technicians with directional watt meters attached to the line know for sure.

One of the scams Eron was pulling in California was to send power over the state border to Arizona, and then re-route it back into California. They did this because there was a California state tax on electrical power generated within the state. Enron claimed the power to be generated in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, or some such place, to avoid the tax. No one in government knew what was happening until someone inside Enron squealed.

Since states in the U.S.A. are about like nations in Europe, I expect the same sort of thing: The officials in European government don't really know which was the power is flowing between nations.

[rerevisionist]

Good comment, FirstClassSkeptic. And of course the criticism of nuclear power by people believing it's a myth hinges on the direction of current being difficult to determine.

Here's an account of a paper, published in 2007, by the 'independent' 'think thank' the 'Oxford Research Group'. It's mainly about the risks of 'nuclear power'. It doesn't outline any reason for the poor performance of nuclear power worldwide. (That organisation is clearly a Jewish/state funded outfit as is obvious to anyone equipped with J-dar). It claims that 'Germany, for example, already has more generating capacity from wind-power than the UK nuclear component and within six years will have more solar powered capacity too.

https://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/p ... al_warming

This is the downloadable 'paper' --- https://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/s ... energy.pdf
and it does indeed claim Germany has considerable wind power, despite (they say) having less good wind resources than Britain.

My reading is that frauds are possibly going to surface soon, as with Enron. Let's hope the records can't be destroyed with government collusion, as Enron's records were (it's said) destroyed in WTC7. Along with the climate change fraud, and the carbon emissions money-making fraud mostly of Goldman-Sachs, there's the wind farm fraud in which capacities are absurdly overstated and costs understated, and very likely the dumpload/ 'nuclear power' fraud; and the nuclear research frauds which are outlined indirectly in the paper, though of course it's deliberately made hard to interpret such things as 'fast breeders'. However, it does seem possible solar power might be useful ... let's hope so.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

I saw an article this morning that said UK's utilities consumption had gone down 2%. That would include electricity, I assume.

When manufacturing goes down, electrical consumption goes down. It's a sign of a contracting economy. Germany's manufacturing had been on the rise, but the latest is that manufacturing is contracting in Germany also. Germany is a huge exporter.

Since the news media wants to put as positive spin as possible on the economy, they may claim that the electrical cutback is the result of having to cut back on nuclear. It may just be that people around Europe are just using less electricity. And so cutting back on generation of electricity would be necessary. In other words; this is just a cover story. They don't want to actually admit that people are using less electricity because that would signify a bad economy.

[rerevisionist]

Good point re decline in manufacturing. It's quite difficult to think clearly as there are so many possibilities here.

For example 'cactusneedles', who is Canadian, believed that, contrary to what most people think, there's a big surplus of electricity; Canada has hydro-electricity and has had massive campaigns for house insulation which reduced demand. And he thinks plans were made in (approx) the 1950s, based on projected domestic consumption for vacuum tubes/valves for radio and TV, which vastly overstated actual demand.

So he thinks dumploads weren't just designed to even out demand for electricity, but to waste it on a large scale. Thus a 'reduction in nuclear power' might mean that someone decided not to waste as much. Maybe electronic control of power supply is now far better than when it was electromechanical?

However, if a lot of dumploads become disused, calculations based on thier supposed output would indicate of course that power generation has dropped. So there'd be a cover story.

As regards total consumption, the movement to export manufacturing to China and India means in effect on average electricity generating plant declines here and goes up there.