[NUKELIES]

AIDS is a blanket term for a number of diseases which vary greatly in Africa and The United States. HIV has never been identified and does not exist.

I went to Shanghai in 2003 at the very height of the "SARS" scare. They took everyone's temperature with sensor guns at the airport, hotels, and even in retail stores. It was ALL bullshit. SARS - like AIDS - another "syndrome" with an absurdly generic name ("Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome") - was totally made up in order to indoctrinate China into the Pharmaceutical Age. And you still see the odd mask-wearing sheeple in China and even Japan to this day - you just want to send them to the farm.

[rerevisionist]

Worth noting the insane double-standard with regards to Africans. They are widely believed to be heavily infected with HIV (though probably the senior medicos know this is a fraud).

When the begging bowl is handed round for supposed medical tretament, half the African continent is about to die off.

But when the phoney asylum seekers turn up they aren't even tested half the time. There's no attempt made to find illegals - and yet they're suppose to carrying a disease worse than the Black Death.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

Why is the life expectancy of a male homosexual only about 38 years?

[voerioc]

About Aids dissident movement, it seems that jews are attempting to control it. The Duesberg side (hiv exists but is harmless, which is much less revolutionary than the Perth Group side) has illegally (by a kind of putsch) took the control of the former aidsmythexposed forum. And People like David Crowe (derivative of Cowe, which is a derivative of Cohen), Bauer (jewish name and clearly jewish face) are now some of the main figures of aids dissidence.

The Perth Group (hiv doesn't exist) seems to be slowly marginalized. Then, it seems the way is now free to water down the dissent theory. And precisely, the last communicate from the Duesberg side (from Marco Ruggiero, jewish face too) is that hiv is not the sole cause of aids. Which means they accept the idea that it could have a role in aids. Thus, they are closer and closer to the aids orthodoxy. With one or two more steps like this there will be nearly no difference between aids dissidence and aids orthodoxy. And jews will then have almost entirely destroyed it from the inside.

[rerevisionist]

voerioc, I'm impressed by your contribution and general awareness, as I have been with all the other contributors.

I met the Perth group when I happened to be in Australia; I also talked at some length with Neville Hodgkinson, who, for a time under the editorship of Andrew Neil of the Sunday Times in Britain, was permitted to air 'controversial' (i.e. true, but not liked) views of AIDS. Hodgkinson was forced to resign, or at least felt he had to resign since his views would be no longer permitted, when Neil was thrown out and replaced by some halfwitted woman. As far as I know, this is the only courageous editorial decision Neil ever made.

I thought in about 2000 that the Jewish angle was marginal (the original 1984 announcement was made by a Jewish woman 'leading' the US Dept of Health, or whatever it was called). But probably there's too much money it for it to be dropped. I also am uncertain about the Wellcome angle, in Britain; is it Jewish? I don't know. But certainly it's entirely possible.

[voerioc]

And I am very pleased to see that you are very aware too. I would have never thought that someone one this forum would have known about the work of Harold Hillman.

About the jews and aids, the "discovery" of hiv is almost en entirely jewish thing. First we have in France : Willy Rozenbaum, Jean-Claude Chermann, Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, all jews. And Montagnier is also a name used by jews.

In the USA, we have Gallo (jewish name, jewish face).

So, at best, aids would be a 80 % jewish thing, at worst, 100 %.

[rerevisionist]

Fantastic. May I encourage people to download my video from
https://www.vimeo.com/21396699

This has my title sequence, and my voice intro to his film; this is one of four, Harold's first, made in an attempt to wake up biology students. There was a copyright dispute which caused Youtube to remove the video. In fact I had and have permission from the copyright owners to promote the video on a non-exclusive and free basis.

[NB Harold has made no specific investigation into virology, though he's happy that the much-promoted electron micrographs of some viruses as rocket-ship style things are artefacts.]

[voerioc]

About Virology Stefan Lanka has made some interesting statements too. He says that for the photos of pathogenic viruses showed in isolation papers, the scale is never given. Or if it is given, this is not in a peer reviewed article. So, this means there is no proof of the existence of pathogenic viruses. No scale, no virus.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

About Virology Stefan Lanka has made some interesting statements too. He says that for the photos of pathogenic viruses showed in isolation papers, the scale is never given. Or if it is given, this is not in a peer reviewed article. So, this means there is no proof of the existence of pathogenic viruses. No scale, no virus.

I have often wondered about viruses; the way they describe them, a virus seems to be just a piece of genetic material, floating around in the environment. I could never understand how such a thing could be 'living', or could find its way to invade an animal.

Also, it seems to me that viruses didn't exist until vaccinations. I think that since a vaccination bypasses the normal digestive route into an animal's body, that a virus, whatever it is, could only invade a body by direct injection.

[NUKELIES]

Stefan Lanka ... there is no proof of the existence of pathogenic viruses. No scale, no virus.

Stefan Lanka is the best of the best of AIDS dissidents. He proves that there is *no* HIV virus, and as voerioc thankfully points out, no disease-causing viruses full stop.

I personally believe that the entire contagion theory is flawed. It is based in 19th century animal husbandry practices which should have little bearing on contemporary medicine. I interviewed Peter Duesberg on my radio show TurnSpeak. His virus myth theories are based on his questioning of Koch's postulates. While his camp may have been co-opted, I'd like to believe he was legitimate in his calling attention to HIV anomalies in the early 80s / 90s.

just a piece of genetic material, floating around in the environment. I could never understand how such a thing could be 'living', or could find its way to invade an animal.

In my limited understanding of what a virus may be, I have come up with the possibility that it may just be a quasi-organic self-replicating crystal which in certain aberrations can be a seed in the creation of a unicellular organism. But I do not believe that a virus can cause any change in a balanced healthy body in which it may be resident. Any given body contains any given quantity and combination of microbes at any given time.

[FirstClassSkeptic]

Actually, Dr. Lanka has already stated three years ago, in the almost "legendary" Zenger´s interview: "So for a long time I studied virology, from the end to the beginning, from the beginning to the end, to be absolutely sure that there was no such thing as HIV. And it was easy for me to be sure about this because I realized that the whole group of viruses to which HIV is said to belong, the retroviruses -- as well as other viruses which are claimed to be very dangerous -- in fact do not exist at all." So he was thoroughly reading the literature on those "other viruses" again, and after he could still not find any paper which would provide the evidence, he encouraged people not to BELIEVE him but to ask the institutes and authorities themselves. This has actually taken place, mostly initiated by mothers. The responses were revealing. In September 2001 the German book "Impfen - Völkermord im dritten Jahrtausend?" (Vaccination - Genocide in the third millennium?) by Stefan Lanka and Karl Krafeld was published in which they state that there is still no proof of any (medically relevant) virus.

https://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm

Stefan Lanka, Ph.D. takes the challenge to HIV's existence even further. A German researcher, Dr. Lanka is usually referred to as a virologist. But that hardly begins to describe his wide-ranging fields of study. Based on experiences in marine biology, biochemistry, evolutionary biology and virology, he's worked out a whole new view of HIV and AIDS. He believes that all so-called retroviruses are actually the body's own creations; that hepatitis is an autoimmune disorder (a disease in which the body is attacked by components of its own immune system) rather than a viral disease; that AIDS has nothing to do with immune suppression; and that it should really be called Acquired Energy Deficiency Syndrome -- AEDS -- because its true cause is a breakdown in the delivery of oxygen to the blood and/or body tissues.

https://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewsl.htm

Interesting. I've never heard this idea before that there's no such thing as a virus.

So, all of these vaccinations, where they give you a dead or disabled 'virus' , cannot possibly be valid because there really is no virus.

[NUKELIES]

that hepatitis is an autoimmune disorder (a disease in which the body is attacked by components of its own immune system) rather than a viral disease

That hepatitis thing is fascinating. I'd like to know more - will check the links.