Schools inspector Marguerite Kramer, 59, says she was intimidated in her home by a council snooper after taking newspapers to a supermarket recycling bin.
She said she was made to “feel like a dangerous criminal” by one of Britain's new army of recycling officers, dubbed “the Talibin”, who accused her of fly-tipping.
She said she felt scared when he turned up on her doorstep, telling her an old address label found near the bins linked her to a bag of newspapers that had not been properly disposed of.
Ms Kramer, an Ofsted inspector, insists she has done nothing wrong but now faces a £75 fine for alleged fly-tipping.
The row comes after it was revealed householders who put out “too much” rubbish face harsher punishments than shoplifters and drunken louts, including £110 on-the-spot fines.
Ms Kramer said her ordeal began after she travelled to a recycling point at a Tesco store near her home in Bradwell, Essex. Later a recycling officer from Braintree Council knocked at her door.
“From the outset he treated me like I was a dangerous criminal,” said Ms Kramer. She said he introduced himself as though he was from a Communist-era secret police, adding: “He made no attempt to be civil or courteous. His manner was rude, offensive and bullying.
“He told me three times he needed to caution me. He said I could be arrested. He told me he had the power to enter my premises. I felt intimidated. I tried to close the door and he wouldn't let me. He started pushing his way in. I was scared.”
After he left, she says she was “gobsmacked” when he returned half an hour later with a police officer who told her she could pay a £75 fine or “terminate the interview so as not to incriminate myself”.
She said: “All I did was take my newspapers to the recycling point at Tesco.”
The former teacher insists she has no idea how a label with her address on was found because she usually destroys anything that could make her a target of identity theft.
She added: “I take recycling very seriously. I go two or three times a week as I don't like it building up between fortnightly collections.”
She has made formal complaints to the council and Essex Police.
Take note one and all, if some greasy little council jobsworth visits your house, be ready. You want names, authentication, dept. phone number from which the visitor emanates and you want above all, written, categorical assurance that all collection systems cannot, under any circumstances, mix up or lose your rubbish en-route, so that if your address is found in a hedge, amongst other rubbish, it can not have got there by any means other than those which the jobsworth is claiming. If your visitor is any other than polite and formal then you need to ring his dept. there and then. I see the Hitler youth in the Police, PCSO's etc more and more, I think I'm getting old.
…….. Better still - get a rottweiler. Tell the jobsworth that he's welcome to enter your home but it would be subject to the dog's approval. You won't see the muppet for dust. -Ed
Depending where you live, I think the present fine for having an overloaded wheelie bin is £110, whilst the fine for dropping litter in the street is £75. The goverment's advice as far as I read it is to drop your excess rubbish in the street; you probably won't get caught and if you do it's £35 cheaper!
Should have kicked him in the ****! Sorry Ed, I'm just fuming, must remember not to lose it. - ;-) - Ed
This council bully-boy told the lady that he had the power to enter her premises. Unfortunately he may well be right.
I have stored on my computer details of two hundred and sixty six, yes, that's 266 ways, in which various officials can legally enter your home. In many cases, without a warrant.
How dare the politicians try and tell us that we live in a free, democratic country.
Especially since Zanulabour came to power, the UK is beginning to resemble a communist state, with minor officials being granted overbearing powers in order to bully and oppress the normally law abiding tax-paying citizen.
We have become the most watched, filmed, photographed and monitored people on the planet.
Zanulabour have introduced more than 3000 laws since they came to power eleven years ago, and each one of these laws potentially criminalise ordinary citizens.
But then what can we expect from a government that is full of ‘ex' communists, marxists and trotskyists. The political training they received when active is certainly being put to good use today.
This is the sort of story that really, really winds me up. Let me tell you as a law abiding citizen, with nothing more serious than a fine for being slightly over the speed limit, that if that guy had tried to push his way into my house or intimidated my wife, he would have had a bunch of fives right on his stupid, jobsworth nose.
The story illustrates what happens when a law ceases to be administered with common sense and goes against the old adage of “the letter of the law and the spirit of the law”.
This guy was nothing more than a bully, over reaching his little bit of power. I wouldn't imagine him taking up an issue with local Pikeys,a section of society well known for the bloody messes they create.
This is in the same league as a women motorist fined fifty pounds in a car park in a small local market town not far from me. A traffic warden accused her of having had one wheel of her car, half an inch over the bay's white line marker.
Dictatorships have always used little nobodies to control and intimidate the masses. I think there is a statement in the book “The Scourge of the Swazika”, that goes something like this, “When the ordinary German looked into the eyes of his Block-Meister, he looked into the eyes of his Fuhrer”.
The powers that rule us, also know, that they cannot tackle the big issues like knife crime, and Islamic hate preaching, but can have boxes ticked by going for soft targets.
Any further comment of mine on this subject would not get by the Editor. So here is a taste of what I would say, already censored, “stupid f41/@ lowlife c”%*ts and ar2334$s etc etc etc.”
- ;-) - Ed
I agree with crispy and midenglander here - if such a scenario had played out at my doorstep, the individual would leave looking significantly less pretty.
The evidence of an “old address label” is a joke. If someone created such a label with the address of whoever implemented this measure at Braintree Council and placed it near some flytipped rubbish, I'd be very interested to see what action would be taken.
Criminalise us all so that we can be forced to carry ID cards and microchips for the ‘protection' of our liberty.
Yes these little hitlers parading as council inspectors. The only growth industry in Browns Britain. But it seems catching. This week a Woman was thrown onto railway lines for telling off two youngsters for smoking. They were not in a room but outside. Their response was extreme and I do not condone it. The non smoking nazi's are making Britain a nightmare place on top of the usual nightmares. I am a smoker that has abstained from the habit since january the first this year. But smoking or bying tobacco is not a crime. When I first started to go to exotic places for vacations smoking was allowed on flights. Now we have people getting extremely drunk on flights causing mayhem. is there a link to forcing people to abstain from having a fag on long flights. You bet there is. As far as this government is concerned its all about control. Nothing to do with health. Controlling what the population does 24/7 and if we do not fight back they will make us cower under the most extreme use of control. China will be a nicer place to be even now chinese can have a fag without fear of some busyboby poking their oar in.
Rod Liddle on “Green” taxes etc (6 pages)-
http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/880631/all-these-green-taxes-and-rules-are-just-witless-nods-to-fashion.thtml
A warped and twisted marxist/globalist scam!
Talk of little hitlers may not be as funny as people think, the solution to this problem is easy, simply collect more often, but in italy rubbish is piling up on the streets, similarly in this country.
I'm every so slightly concerened to read that, rather than do this the Marxists are proposing we build vast incinerators.
Here we are, perhaps on the verge of a deliberately engineered civil strife in this country, Our own Heritage even our race being swamped out of existance and these Commies are arranging a need for Incinerators.
I can't help agreeing with the BNP on this, if we didn't have such a rising population, we wouldn't have aso much of a problem with rubbish, with pollution, with environmental issues, landfill problems, road congestion, crime levels, prison over crowding, NHS and welfare over stretch. Sounds simple really, good olde fashioned British Common Sense.
But them I'm only a Prole, what do we know compared to the soaring intellects of Gordon Brown and David Cameron and Nick Clegg.
grumpygit forgive my ignorance . I was always brought up believing only the police could enter your premises without a warrant whilst in ” hot pursuit ” or in order to prevent the commissioning of a crime. Ive read about these powers being given and youve obviously done your research could you enlighten me as to how many of the 266 of these powers have been forced upon us since this mob of traitors came to power in 97?
Sorry for being thick but I thought that the “Pretty Bins” that supermarkets kindly provide, and have “WASTE PAPER” painted over them were for waste paper.
We must tell the “Jobsworth” they are entries in an “Art Competition”. Someone then could hopefully get a Government Grant!
You would'nt think that we pay these peoples wages would you.We obviously have got to take back control and teach these morons the meaning of dismissal.
Send the jobsworth out to Afghanistan… if anyone can find a Bin Laden… he will. Boom! Boom!
We can safely bet that this persecution and attempted criminalisation of the indigenous law-abiding British public, is never perpetrated against non-white Third world invaders AND moreover, we know why.
The tide will eventually turn though! I have no doubt about that.
God help the treacherous elite and their fellow indigenous lackeys when it does.
A Nationalist government will lose no time AND take great pleasure in setting up a permanent international investigation bureau for the purpose of apprehending and bring to trial such Communist war criminals.
Steady on, Erin, they are only Council jobsworths when all is said and done, they will see the error of their ways - Ed
We should get rid of TV licensing thats for sure, as far as I'm aware near 50% of the cost is spent simply on enforcing the collection of the TV licence, they have something like 5000 people on it.
Pure madness.
‘The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.'
(Tacitus - who was, I seem to remember, a Roman historian.)
A useful tip for everyone - when you chuck out any old mail or documents for “recycling” It's a very good idea to first remove all indentifying marks and addresses. If the Nazis can't identify you they can't fine you.
….. Good advice - a cross-shredder doesn't cost much and is a good investment. -Ed
royalecraig, what are they building incinerators for? Say it's not to get rid of the evidence when the indigenous have succumbed to imported alien diseases for which the NHS cannot afford to provide medication or been blown up, stabbed, shot, slashed, dismembered or poisoned and they can't afford to bury us because we take up room that rightfully belongs to the new Muslim masters of the land, is it? Please say it's not. Sounds like a really final solution, though.
Grumpygit, your list sounds like a very precious document. Any chance of making it available on a website at all? I'm sure it would be a well-visited and useful one.
I must stop reading this site! It makes me so angry, it is bad for me.
Just think of the apoplexy it causes the enemy - Ed
A few weeks ago I noticed my first newly designated traffic warden:- “Community Enforcement Officer”. What are they lining these untrained little s***s up to emforce, I ask myself? I do not like the Police anymore, but at least the Police often pay some heed to the broader aspects of the Law; these untrained little swine have no comprehension of the law outside of its immediate relevance to their increasingly broad fields of “enforcement”. I really do fear that I shall land up in gaol. Ill, crippled, growing old, gaol would probably kill me, but if one of these nasty little a***-wipes tried to force his way into my home, I would rip the clown apart - and bingo, the swat squad would have me spreadeagled on the ground, and the full majesty of the EU Law would subsequently be directed against me; all this, while violent criminals, burglars, knife-wielding thugs and illegal immigrants are merely cautioned and allowed to continue to go about their criminal business. The Regime has created a consciously sick society, designed to intimidate the law abiding citizen, to crush our spirits. Well, they aint crushed mine yet, and perhaps they never will; I've been through too much to be intimidated by these little t**ds. Sorry for all that:- sometimes my anger gets the better of me.
The regime is a tyranny, but it has feet of clay; as long as we remain in being, stay tight and steadily expand we will win though in the end - Ed
This lady was unwise to let a piece of scrap with her name and address on it go for recycling. We all should take the time to tear this information off and shred it. It isn't just the little town hall types that need fending off, it's identity thieves as well.
If you wish to make the contents of your wheely unpalatable to the nosy, hurl some wet gunk in there and swirl it round with a stick. When an ashtray is full, I hold it under the cold tap as a safety measure and then into the bin it goes. Have fun with that, you council kidlets.
If the information you wish to destroy is very sensitive and personal, here's a little tip that is even better than a shredder because I've heard that some of this stuff gets sent to India for processing and the crafty b****rs actually have the time and patience to piece it all back together again to obtain names, national insurance numbers, bank details etc. To avoid the possibility of this happening to you soak the documents in a bowl of boiling water and when the fibres in the paper start to seperate rip into small pieces and screw up into a tight soggy ball, hey presto not even a genius could unravel the resulting pulp, job done.
Crispy. We have an easier solution to dispose of personal literature/information, it's called a bonfire!. No doubt of course bonfires will be banned soon because of their anti social status, or if you believe in conspiracy theories, because they remind us at a sub conscious level of that well meaning gentleman Mr Fawkes.
jao7, might be alright for you to have a bonfire but where I live if I decided to have a bonfire the council anti- pollution investigation co-ordinators on £27,000 a year would be round before you could say “gestapo” and poor Crispy would be hauled up before the magistrate to answer for my henious crime against the green lobby, sorry old mate, no can do.
It is a disturbing fact that a very large percentage of any population can be turned into an army of jobsworths typified by the piece of excrement who, in effect, attacked Ms Kramer.
Mass murderers including Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot and Mao tse-Tung (or should that be Dung nowadays) made sufficiently extensive use of this plentiful type to do their dirty work for them. At least 100 million people have perished at the hands of people who claimed to be “only obeying orders” or “just doing my job”, as if calling it their “job” made it right.
If I ever get one of these poisonous creatures at my door, I will invite him into the hallway, then, once he's on my dog's territory, I'll introduce the two of them!
Never allow anyone into your home is the simple answer. Even simpler is never answer the door unless you know or are expecting the caller. If any such fascist in his Kapo uniform tried to force their way in all I can say is it would be on the six o'clock news.
There is no law that says you have to answer the door. I have one of those little spy gadgets in the door that many people have these days so if I don't like the the cut of a persons jib I just ignore ‘em.
They are quite welcome to rummage through my bin bags but they better be wearing an NBC suit since it contains considerable quantities of cat litter at various stages of decomposition and it gets added to daily.